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Is it POSSIBLE for Biden to be a REAL Statesman?

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  • Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
    So, then, you have no room to complain that other's didn't condemn violence sufficiently full throated enough for you.
    Since you don't seem to have understood me the first time, let me repeat:

    Insofar as I've seen anything that even remotely approaches a condemnation of the capital riots from the right-wingers here, they've been statements that read like "I condemn all violence. The left do violence. They are bad."

    And let me reemphasize that what's been missing is a specific condemnation of the capital riots from the right-wingers. And let me reemphasize that part of their pathetic dodging technique to try to shamelessly escape all guilt and responsibility regarding that event is to give vague platitudes about violence and try and both-sides the serious events in the capital. I haven't seen any right-wingers in this forum take ownership of, acknowledge, and apologize for, the events in the capital. It's been shameless deflection instead.
    "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
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    • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      Since you don't seem to have understood me the first time, let me repeat:

      Insofar as I've seen anything that even remotely approaches a condemnation of the capital riots from the right-wingers here, they've been statements that read like "I condemn all violence. The left do violence. They are bad."

      And let me reemphasize that what's been missing is a specific condemnation of the capital riots from the right-wingers. And let me reemphasize that part of their pathetic dodging technique to try to shamelessly escape all guilt and responsibility regarding that event is to give vague platitudes about violence and try and both-sides the serious events in the capital. I haven't seen any right-wingers in this forum take ownership of, acknowledge, and apologize for, the events in the capital. It's been shameless deflection instead.
      Again. The violence was condemned. I'm sorry it didn't meet the verbage to your liking.

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      • bidensign.jpg


        "All I want is unity," says Biden as he signs a huge stack of executive orders undoing everything the Republicans accomplished in the last 4 years.

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        • Originally posted by EvoUK View Post

          I think you're getting a little carried away in the post-Trump euphoria . The adults are back in charge, but that's about all we can say at this point - though I agree that there's been some positive movements such as the ones you have highlighted above. I've also seen mention of his flurry of executive orders such as to bring the US back into the Paris climate accord - though I expected this as a bare minimum from a responsible government.

          It remains to be seen if unity is possible with those across the aisle, I'm sure Biden remembers the Obama years- it's just a question of whether or not he learned his lesson.

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          That cartoon is laughable and is inverse to reality. The Democrats have been moving far more to the left whereas the Republican positions today closely mirror those that the Democrats like JFK held.

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            The Democrats have been moving far more to the left whereas the Republican positions today closely mirror those that the Democrats like JFK held.

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            • Originally posted by EvoUK View Post

              It doesn't matter if he talks about unity at the inauguration- he can't mean it if at the same time he's employing qualified transgender people to positions of power. What sort of uniter would make policies or hire people the right disagree with?

              For the sarcastically impaired the following is said in jest

              He's an empty suit full of hot air if you ask me.

              "Qualified" on paper is about all.

              Pennsylvania, the state where Levine was Secretary of Health, ranks 12th for highest percentage of mortality due to the Chicom coronavirus. It was one of the states where they thought it was a fabulous idea to stick covid infected patients into nursing homes with those most vulnerable to the disease. Over half of the deaths in the state took place in those nursing homes. And while the elderly were dying in droves in nursing homes Levine removed her mother from the nursing home she was in.

              Her shut down policies have been among the country's strictest which resulted in crippling their economy but hasn't done much if anything to curtail the spread of the disease.

              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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              • Originally posted by EvoUK View Post

                Another foreign clown who knows far more about what is happening in the U.S. than people who live here.

                Maybe you can join with star and tell us all about how the state of New York is being run by Republicans.

                I'm always still in trouble again

                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                • Originally posted by Starlight View Post


                  Wow, that's incredible projection. Your statement applies a million times more to the right.

                  The 20,000 troops in DC aren't there to defend your capital from the left. It isn't their violent behavior that is posing an existential threat to your country's democracy.
                  The troops were there as props by the power hungry left to fool really stupid people into making really stupid comments like yours.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    I'll go first, answering the question -- I don't think Biden has it in him.

                    A real statesman, as POTUS, could use the bully pulpit to try to bring sanity and unity to our nation.

                    This is NOT a "blame Trump" thread, so no OMB nonsense here.

                    I have often done work in crisis management and problem resolution, and have been called on to bring order where chaos has reigned -- mostly in Churches, but also in a number of businesses.

                    The first order of business is to call for all of the moderates on both sides (assuming there are any) to work together to bring peace.
                    Along with that, you appeal to the extremes to moderate their actions, and call for the voice of reason.

                    I believe that's what Biden SHOULD do --- but I don't believe he has the character.
                    OR, maybe his handlers won't let him.

                    When he speaks, he sounds angry and accusative..... what we need is a STATESMAN.

                    I don't think Joe has it in him.
                    Bide could not do worse than Trump check warming Putin and cruel dictators, and insulting and attacking our allies.
                    Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                    Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                    But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                    go with the flow the river knows . . .

                    Frank

                    I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                    • Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post

                      Bide could not do worse than Trump check warming Putin and cruel dictators, and insulting and attacking our allies.
                      Shuny, why don't you take a bit to sober up, or... you're just babbling nonsense. You're not even coherent.

                      (or, was that your imitiation of Biden?)
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                        Shuny, why don't you take a bit to sober up, or... you're just babbling nonsense. You're not even coherent.

                        (or, was that your imitiation of Biden?)
                        Your slandert has nothing to do with my religion just the facts of Trump's foreign policy.
                        Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                        Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                        But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                        go with the flow the river knows . . .

                        Frank

                        I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                        • Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post

                          Your slandert has nothing to do with my religion just the facts of Trump's foreign policy.
                          My "slandert"? Shuny --- take some time off and sober up a bit.
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • "Slandert" sounds like the name of a cartoon character.
                            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                            Than a fool in the eyes of God


                            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                            • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                              "Slandert" sounds like the name of a cartoon character.
                              Poor Shuny knows as much about slandert as he does about biology gender.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • Wearing a wig and a dress doesn't make someone a woman anymore than living in a garage makes them a car.

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