Announcement

Collapse

Civics 101 Guidelines

Want to argue about politics? Healthcare reform? Taxes? Governments? You've come to the right place!

Try to keep it civil though. The rules still apply here.
See more
See less

Trump should be removed from office and charged with Insurrection.

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Trump should be removed from office and charged with Insurrection.

    "Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States." 18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection

    Not only is Trump the only person in the US who's recently actually tried to steal an election (i.e. the famous Georgia phone call, repeated lies about election fraud, pressuring the VP to unilaterally steal the election, and inciting insurrection at the Capitol), but he's violated his oath of office by disregarding the Constitution, which he swore an oath to uphold. For all my fellow conservatives out there, if these actions don't inspire you reflect on your own civic duty as an American first (and Republican second), then I'm not sure anything could. What would it take, otherwise? Would Trump have to wave a Nazi flag and start shooting people on the White House lawn?

    I know I have a bit a reputation around here for disliking Trump, but his actions these last few weeks are beyond the pale. I'm ashamed to have voted for him twice. I'll also go ahead and make a commitment: if Trump runs for elected office again (in which I'm eligible to vote), I will literally vote for any candidate running against him. I don't care if it's my neighbor's dog running against him, I will not be party to helping this depraved narcissist set fire to our Constitution again. The same goes for any politician who votes against impeachment if that vote gets off the floor. I'll never vote for any politician ever again who votes against impeachment now. If the politicians can't suspend their own personal interest for once in their miserable lives, they don't deserve to hold office ever again.
    "If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship

  • #2
    He won't run; no way, no how. I think Trump is in deep trouble. I think they're going to come after him pretty hard. Your wishes will be fulfilled.

    Comment


    • #3
      Originally posted by seanD View Post
      He won't run; no way, no how. I think Trump is in deep trouble. I think they're going to come after him pretty hard. Your wishes will be fulfilled.
      I disliked him before, but I harbored no ill will against him. But between the phone call and events at the Capitol, I really think he should be investigated and charged criminally. My desire it's all about punishment. I think this is a critical moment for our country, and we need to send a message that election fraud and inciting riots with the goal of stealing an election is just wrong, no matter who you are.
      "If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship

      Comment


      • #4
        Originally posted by seanD View Post
        He won't run; no way, no how. I think Trump is in deep trouble. I think they're going to come after him pretty hard. Your wishes will be fulfilled.
        Now that would incite insurrection...
        Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

        Comment


        • #5
          Originally posted by seer View Post

          Now that would incite insurrection...
          Perhaps that's the intent... problem, reaction, solution.

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by myth View Post

            I disliked him before, but I harbored no ill will against him. But between the phone call and events at the Capitol, I really think he should be investigated and charged criminally. My desire it's all about punishment. I think this is a critical moment for our country, and we need to send a message that election fraud and inciting riots with the goal of stealing an election is just wrong, no matter who you are.
            I love his libertarian policies as POTUS. Too bad he's a nut. Now we have real enemies-of-the-people in office.

            Comment


            • #7
              Originally posted by seer View Post

              Now that would incite insurrection...
              The insurrection has already happened. Or, perhaps more articulately, the attempt.
              "If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by myth View Post

                The insurrection has already happened. Or, perhaps more articulately, the attempt.
                Um, no. That was just a taste. I know you and the left love to blow that out of proportion like it was the end of the world, but we're talking about a bunch of disorganized, unarmed Trump rabble rousers. We're not talking about trained and armed militias all around the country waiting in the shadows.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by seanD View Post

                  Um, no. That was just a taste. I know you and the left love to blow that out of proportion like it was the end of the world, but we're talking about a bunch of disorganized, unarmed Trump rabble rousers. We're not talking about trained and armed militias all around the country waiting in the shadows.
                  Still meets the definition, does it not? That's also why I qualified it as an "attempt". You really don't read well, do you?
                  "If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by seanD View Post

                    Um, no. That was just a taste. I know you and the left love to blow that out of proportion like it was the end of the world, but we're talking about a bunch of disorganized, unarmed Trump rabble rousers. We're not talking about trained and armed militias all around the country waiting in the shadows.
                    Not all of them were untrained rabble rousers. Two of the heavy hitters who actually knew what they were doing and came prepared to do it have been identified. One had a significant military history.

                    And a cop died! Can we not gloss over that like it's meaningless?

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by myth View Post

                      Still meets the definition, does it not? That's also why I qualified it as an "attempt". You really don't read well, do you?
                      I read it, I just disagreed. It wasn't an "attempt." Disorganized, unarmed Trump rabble rousers acting on impulse. Had it been an attempt, there would have been a whole lot more carnage and horror than that.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by LiconaFan97 View Post

                        Not all of them were untrained rabble rousers. Two of the heavy hitters who actually knew what they were doing and came prepared to do it have been identified. One had a significant military history.

                        And a cop died! Can we not gloss over that like it's meaningless?
                        Chants from over the summer.
                        "Deck the halls with rows of dead cops"
                        "What do we want? Dead Cops! When do we want it? Right Now!"

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by seanD View Post

                          I read it, I just disagreed. It wasn't an "attempt." Disorganized, unarmed Trump rabble rousers acting on impulse. Had it been an attempt, there would have been a whole lot more carnage and horror than that.
                          Yup. Criminally charge, or not, the guilty and move along.

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by seanD View Post

                            I read it, I just disagreed. It wasn't an "attempt." Disorganized, unarmed Trump rabble rousers acting on impulse. Had it been an attempt, there would have been a whole lot more carnage and horror than that.
                            It's hilarious. Apparently Trump had this big broad conspiracy plan in place that relied on a bunch of inept people storming a building en-masse and then goofing around in the Capitol Building.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Originally posted by LiconaFan97 View Post

                              Not all of them were untrained rabble rousers. Two of the heavy hitters who actually knew what they were doing and came prepared to do it have been identified. One had a significant military history.

                              And a cop died! Can we not gloss over that like it's meaningless?
                              4st5o4.jpg

                              Comment

                              Related Threads

                              Collapse

                              Topics Statistics Last Post
                              Started by seer, Today, 01:12 PM
                              4 responses
                              51 views
                              0 likes
                              Last Post Sparko
                              by Sparko
                               
                              Started by rogue06, Yesterday, 09:33 AM
                              45 responses
                              341 views
                              1 like
                              Last Post Starlight  
                              Started by whag, 04-16-2024, 10:43 PM
                              60 responses
                              388 views
                              0 likes
                              Last Post seanD
                              by seanD
                               
                              Started by rogue06, 04-16-2024, 09:38 AM
                              0 responses
                              27 views
                              1 like
                              Last Post rogue06
                              by rogue06
                               
                              Started by Hypatia_Alexandria, 04-16-2024, 06:47 AM
                              100 responses
                              440 views
                              0 likes
                              Last Post CivilDiscourse  
                              Working...
                              X