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  • #16
    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    wow
    Let me remind you that suicide terrorism is almost always caused by military occupation:
    the biggest cause of suicide attacks is military occupation.

    ....They have compiled the terrorism statistics in a publicly available database comprising some 10,000 records on some 2,200 suicide terrorism attacks, dating back to the first suicide terrorism attack of modern times the 1983 truck bombing of the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut, Lebanon, which killed 241 U.S. Marines.

    "We have lots of evidence now that when you put the foreign military presence in, it triggers suicide terrorism campaigns, ... and that when the foreign forces leave, it takes away almost 100 percent of the terrorist campaign,"


    Sending in troops makes terrorism worse, and removing them fixes the problem. Osama Bin Laden stated that the presence of US military bases in Saudi Arabia was the ultimate insult that could not be borne. Since 9/11, the US has massively stirred up terrorism around the world, by waging an insane 'war on terror' that by its nature of putting a foreign military presence in more countries has inevitably caused more terrorism and made us all less safe. The idiocy is pretty much off the charts.

    Gallup did a poll of people around the world, asking them what country they thought was the biggest threat to world peace, and the most common answer was the US.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      Gallup did a poll of people around the world, asking them what country they thought was the biggest threat to world peace, and the most common answer was the US.
      Let me remind you that when "people all around the world" get their butts in a crack, and somebody asks "who ya gonna call", the most common answer has been the US.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        ."We have lots of evidence now that when you put the foreign military presence in, it triggers suicide terrorism campaigns, ... and that when the foreign forces leave, it takes away almost 100 percent of the terrorist campaign...
        What happened when we took our troops out of Iraq? More or less terrorism? And what do you think will happen in Afghanistan? No doubt the Taliban will regain control.

        Osama Bin Laden stated that the presence of US military bases in Saudi Arabia was the ultimate insult that could not be borne
        But the government of Saudi Arabia wanted us there, so it wasn't an occupation.
        Last edited by seer; 08-27-2016, 08:04 PM.
        Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          somebody asks "who ya gonna call"
          "GHOSTBUSTERS!!!" [theme song starts playing...]

          Serious answer: The UN. I'm fine with UN-approved interventions.

          It's when the US starts shouting "I've got this! I've got this!" and runs in like a overenthusiastic 6 year old to light fireworks, that everyone in the rest of the world starts face-palming and shaking their heads. The history of US interventions in the 20th century was bad, like really really bad.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by seer View Post
            What happened when we took our troops out of Iraq? More or less terrorism? And what do you think will happen in Afghanistan? No doubt the Taliban will regain control.
            The problem with that argument is that it disregards the fact we were doing multiple things in that region at about the same time ISIS rose to power, namely taking down Gaddafi and arming terrorist groups in Syria. And isn't it ironic that ISIS pretty much took control of parts of Iraq and Syria at about the same time we got involved in the Syrian conflict. So pulling out if Iraq is not an isolated event and has to be considered in the context of all this other mayhem we were orchestrating in the region at the same time.
            "What am I doing here?" -- Joe Biden 2021

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              Definitely a no thank you. Git your stupid ships and your stupid army and your stupid military bases out of the rest of the world, and stop causing wars and inspiring terrorists. You're actively harming everyone, destabilizing the world, threatening world peace, and causing terrorism. You're just complete idiots if you think what you're doing is good.
              Face it Starlight, without the U.S. you'd be huffing from exhaustion after peddling your bike trying to generate enough power to have made your post.

              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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              • #22
                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                Face it Starlight, without the U.S. you'd be huffing from exhaustion after peddling your bike trying to generate enough power to have made your post.
                If it weren't for Al Gore, he wouldn't even know anything about posting, and he'd not even know anything about US Politics, without the internetzweb.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  Face it Starlight, without the U.S. you'd be huffing from exhaustion after peddling your bike trying to generate enough power to have made your post.
                  Dude, our electricity grid is hydro powered. Our cars are what use the oil (hopefully not for much longer).

                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  If it weren't for Al Gore, he wouldn't even know anything about posting, and he'd not even know anything about US Politics, without the internetzweb.
                  I can barely imagine what life would be like without the internetzweb. The world used to be black and white back in the day, didn't it? #millennial
                  Last edited by Starlight; 08-28-2016, 12:42 AM.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                    Dude, our electricity grid is hydro powered. Our cars are what use the oil.
                    Cool, Dudette, then you can peddle your bike to get places!
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      Face it Starlight, without the U.S. you'd be huffing from exhaustion after peddling your bike trying to generate enough power to have made your post.

                      On second thought perhaps we should have left New Zealand and Australia to the Japanese...
                      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by seer View Post
                        On second thought perhaps we should have left New Zealand and Australia to the Japanese...
                        Then we'd need a Japanese interpreter to interact with Raph!
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                          Then we'd need a Japanese interpreter to interact with Raph!
                          Funny, I still need an interpreter with Tass and Star...
                          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                            "GHOSTBUSTERS!!!" [theme song starts playing...]

                            Serious answer: The UN. I'm fine with UN-approved interventions.
                            Yeah, they did a bang up job recently in places like Darfur and the Central African Republic (CAR) either stepping back and allowing massacres to take place or systematically raping those they're supposed to protect.

                            I'm always still in trouble again

                            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                              Yeah, they did a bang up job recently in places like Darfur and the Central African Republic (CAR) either stepping back and allowing massacres to take place or systematically raping those they're supposed to protect.
                              Yeah, I had a really good list of UN "successes" running, and I didn't realize my laptop wasn't plugged in, battery died, and ..... AND, at WHAT COST?
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • #30
                                Meanwhile, that "deal" with Iran just keeps getting betterer and betterer!

                                Source: YahooNews

                                Tehran (AFP) - Tehran has deployed a recently delivered Russian-made long-range missile system to central Iran to protect its Fordo nuclear facility, state television said Sunday.

                                Protecting nuclear facilities is paramount "in all circumstances" General Farzad Esmaili, the commander of Iran's air defences, told the IRIB channel.

                                "Today, Iran's sky is one of the most secure in the region," he added.

                                A video showed an S-300 carrier truck in Fordo, raising its missile launchers toward the sky, next to other counter-strike weaponry.

                                The images were aired hours after supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei gave a speech to air force commanders, including Esmaili, in which he stressed that Iranian military power was for defensive purposes only.

                                "Continued opposition and hype on the S-300 or the Fordo site are examples of the viciousness of the enemy," Khamenei said.

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                                I notice the Tweb Dunderheads who valiantly defended this fiasco are a lot less vocal, lately.
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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