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  • Trump's unethical pardon's include the dredge of companion's in crime

    Trump's pardon's did not meet the Judicial standards for pardons. They were his own personal list of parti'sin' swamp dwellers and companions in crime.

    Source: https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/22/politics/trump-pardons/index.html



    Trump announces wave of pardons, including Papadopoulos and former lawmakers Hunter and Collins

    By Pamela Brown, Kevin Liptak and Katelyn Polantz, CNN

    (CNN)President Donald Trump on Tuesday announced a wave of lame duck pardons, including two for men who pleaded guilty in Robert Mueller's investigation, as well as ones for Republican allies who once served in Congress and military contractors involved in a deadly shooting of Iraqi civilians.

    The pardons of former campaign aide George Papadopoulos, former US congressmen Duncan Hunter and Chris Collins, and the four Blackwater guards involved in the Iraq massacre kick off what is expected to be a flurry of pardons and commutations in the coming weeks as Trump concludes his term.
    Also included in the batch announced on Tuesday are Alex van der Zwaan, the Dutch lawyer who was sentenced to 30 days in jail after pleading guilty to lying to Mueller investigators; two Border Patrol agents convicted in 2006 of shooting and wounding an unarmed undocumented immigrant and then covering it up; and several people convicted of non-violent drug crimes serving lengthy sentences.

    The pardons came at the recommendation of Trump allies in Congress and, in some cases, the conservative media. Many of the non-violent drug offenders were recommended for clemency by Alice Johnson, the former federal inmate whose sentence Trump commuted at the urging of Kim Kardashian West.


    The announcement Tuesday also included commuting the remaining prison term of former Rep. Steve Stockman, a Texas Republican who was convicted by a jury in Texas of almost two dozen felonies, including fraud and money laundering.
    In the release, the White House cited Stockman's age, 64, and said he "has underlying pre-existing health conditions that place his health at greater risk during the COVID epidemic, and he has already contracted COVID while in prison." He had served two years of his 10-year sentence for what prosecutors called a "a white-collar crime spree."

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    go with the flow the river knows . . .

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  • #2
    Fortunately, there is no such thing as a "judicial standard," only a Constitutional standard which can be summed up as "Because he felt like it."
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    • #3
      This is that the opening post looks like to me:

      Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
      Orange Man Bad!
      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
      Than a fool in the eyes of God


      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
        This is what it looks like to me:
        Orange man so much worse than anyone could possibly have imagined.
        “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
        “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
        “not all there” - you know who you are

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        • #5
          If he doesn't pardon Assange and Snowden, yet is willing to pardon a bunch of bloodthirsty mercenaries, IMO, that's going to be huge blackeye on his exit to a lot of his supporters (the reasonable supporters, not his cult fanboys like Alex Jones).

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
            This is that the opening post looks like to me:


            And he is. He pardoned people guilty of significant crimes for no reason than that they have stroked his ego. That is bad - period. A violation and an abuse of the power entrusted to him to be used wisely and fairly. He mocks the principles on which this nation was founded, and mocks the deep concerns of those who framed the constitution and our laws.

            All of that is bad.
            My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

            If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

            This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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            • #7
              Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post

              And he is. He pardoned people guilty of significant crimes for no reason than that they have stroked his ego. That is bad - period. A violation and an abuse of the power entrusted to him to be used wisely and fairly. He mocks the principles on which this nation was founded, and mocks the deep concerns of those who framed the constitution and our laws.

              All of that is bad.
              It is important to note his pardons DID NOT meet Judicial standards of pardons.
              Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
              Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
              But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

              go with the flow the river knows . . .

              Frank

              I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by firstfloor View Post

                Orange man so much worse than anyone could possibly have imagined.
                Really? Care to compare them to some of those who Clinton pardoned?

                I'm always still in trouble again

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                  Really? Care to compare them to some of those who Clinton pardoned?
                  Is this a joke? How many war criminal murderers did Clinton pardon?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by LiconaFan97 View Post

                    Is this a joke? How many war criminal murderers did Clinton pardon?
                    He only married one.

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                    • #11
                      [QUOTE=NorrinRadd;n1217563]Fortunately, there is no such thing as a "judicial standard," only a Constitutional standard which can be summed up as "Because he felt like it."[/QUOT

                      Yes, Trump pardons "Because he felt like it,' because he has not moral and ethical foundations nor respect and honor for the Judicial system. Yrs the Department of Justice has standards for pardons. The following has a much longer detailed explanation for the process and standards.

                      [cite-https://www.justice.gov/pardon/about-office-0]

                      SECTION 9-140.112 - STANDARDS FOR CONSIDERING PARDON PETITIONS


                      In general, a pardon is granted on the basis of the petitioner's demonstrated good conduct for a substantial period of time after conviction and service of sentence. The Department's regulations require a petitioner to wait a period of at least five years after conviction or release from confinement (whichever is later) before filing a pardon application (28 CFR Section 1.2). The Department may grant a waiver of the five-year requirement. In determining whether a particular petitioner should be recommended for a pardon, the following are the principal factors taken into account.
                      1. Post-conviction conduct, character, and reputation. An individual's demonstrated ability to lead a responsible and productive life for a significant period after conviction or release from confinement is strong evidence of rehabilitation and worthiness for pardon. The background investigation customarily conducted by the FBI in pardon cases focuses on the petitioner's financial and employment stability, responsibility toward family, reputation in the community, participation in community service, charitable or other meritorious activities and, if applicable, military record. The investigation also serves to verify the petitioner’s responses in the pardon application. In assessing post-conviction accomplishments, each petitioner's life circumstances are considered in their totality: it may not be appropriate or realistic to expect "extraordinary" post-conviction achievements from individuals who are less fortunately situated in terms of cultural, educational, or economic background.
                      2. Seriousness and relative recentness of the offense. When an offense is very serious, (e.g., a violent crime, major drug trafficking, breach of public trust, or white collar fraud involving substantial sums of money), a suitable length of time should have elapsed in order to avoid denigrating the seriousness of the offense or undermining the deterrent effect of the conviction. In the case of a prominent individual or notorious crime, the likely effect of a pardon on law enforcement interests or upon the general public should be taken into account. Victim impact may also be a relevant consideration. When an offense is very old and relatively minor, the equities may weigh more heavily in favor of forgiveness, provided the petitioner is otherwise a suitable candidate for pardon.
                      3. Acceptance of responsibility, remorse, and atonement. The extent to which a petitioner has accepted responsibility for his or her criminal conduct and made restitution to its victims are important considerations. A petitioner should be genuinely desirous of forgiveness rather than vindication. While the absence of expressions of remorse should not preclude favorable consideration, a petitioner's attempt to minimize or rationalize culpability does not advance the case for pardon. In this regard, statements made in mitigation (e.g., "everybody was doing it," or I didn't realize it was illegal") should be judged in context. Persons seeking a pardon on grounds of innocence or miscarriage of justice bear a formidable burden of persuasion.
                      4. Need for Relief. The purpose for which pardon is sought may influence disposition of the petition. A felony conviction may result in a wide variety of legal disabilities under state or federal law, some of which can provide persuasive grounds for recommending a pardon. For example, a specific employment-related need for pardon, such as removal of a bar to licensure or bonding, may make an otherwise marginal case sufficiently compelling to warrant a grant in aid of the individual's continuing rehabilitation. On the other hand, the absence of a specific need should not be held against an otherwise deserving applicant, who may understandably be motivated solely by a strong personal desire for a sign of forgiveness.
                      5. Official recommendations and reports. The comments and recommendations of concerned and knowledgeable officials, particularly the United States Attorney or Assistant Attorney General whose office prosecuted the case and the sentencing judge, are carefully considered. The likely impact of favorable action in the district or nationally, particularly on current law enforcement priorities, will always be relevant to the President's decision. Apart from their significance to the individuals who seek them, pardons can play an important part in defining and furthering the rehabilitative goals of the criminal justice system. [/cite]
                      Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                      Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                      But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                      go with the flow the river knows . . .

                      Frank

                      I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        Really? Care to compare them to some of those who Clinton pardoned?
                        Rachel goes through the list - it’s horrific. There are more to come. Mind you, the pardon power is so clearly open to abuse that future Presidents may find that they are much more restricted by new laws.
                        “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                        “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
                        “not all there” - you know who you are

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                          He only married one.
                          She never murdered anyone, only drunk their blood.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by firstfloor View Post

                            Rachel goes through the list - it’s horrific. There are more to come. Mind you, the pardon power is so clearly open to abuse that future Presidents may find that they are much more restricted by new laws.
                            ...which will quickly become ruled unconstitutional?
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by LiconaFan97 View Post

                              She never murdered anyone, only drunk their blood.
                              https://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wo...d-did-nothing/

                              R.I.P.

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