Russia hacked the Teasury Department

[oxmixmudd]

Nice attempt but your pedantry has gone overboard. I specifically said that if someone openly opposed the president that would be one thing. They could be asked to resign. But to do it behind their back in secret, undermining POTUS's orders, etc, that is different.

Not exactly. And this does get messy, but for the most part, at high levels of government, the loyalty and the oaths are to the American people and the US constitution. So anyone working in the white house has a responsibility first the the US constitution and people, and then to the office of president, not to the man in the office.

It is this distinction that has kept the US truly great to this point, and it is THE thing Trump just doesn't understand. He wants people loyal to HIM above all else. And that just is not what the US or US governance is about. And that is why so many have had lines they simply will not cross and Trump keeps having to fire them and go hunting someone that will do his bidding regardless of what aligns with the constitution or the will of the American people.

[LiconaFan97]

Nice attempt but your pedantry has gone overboard. I specifically said that if someone openly opposed the president that would be one thing. They could be asked to resign. But to do it behind their back in secret, undermining POTUS's orders, etc, that is different.

Ok, so we'll go with opposition behind closed doors. There are plenty of examples of people undermining the incoming Biden administration (see GSA administrator, cutting back and canceling briefings, continuing to undermine Biden's legitimacy etc.) In fact, Trump and Devos (and probably others) have taken steps to embed loyalists in positions to work against Biden once he takes over and continue undermining him. Is that a coup? Or you could just say "I threw that word around casually and didn't really mean it in the sense I'm using it now." But you're constitutionally incapable of that.

I don't want to sound pedantic but I'm pretty sure you don't know what that word means. Stating my ideas clearly and correcting your material misunderstandings / misstatements is not pedantry.