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  • #16
    Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post

    You remember when Jesus said to do certain things without neglecting others?

    We are talking about a complete abandonment of reality and truth. I assure you it is possible to maintain Godly positions on abortion and homosexuality without abandoning reality and truth and character. It is NOT either or.

    However, truthfulness and integrity are fundamental basics for any position. You start there. Who did Jesus praise? Those who on some level exhibited purity of heart. Who did He condemn? Those who embraced lies and falsehoods in themselves and in others.
    So because you seem to think that the Democrats are completely truthful and full of integrity that it outweighs the evil that they do. Got it.

    Jesus condemned the self-righteous hypocrites, the Pharisees, who said one thing and did another. Which we could compare the Democrats to today. As well as those who call themselves Christians but support the evil done by those who claim to be truthful.

    Talk about abandoning the truth. You seem to excel at that.


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    • #17
      Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

      Well, given the Governor General of New Zealand also has that power, I guess you guys are in a banana republic as well.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
        Too true (sadly). And trump is the top banana :+}

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        • #19
          Originally posted by oxmixmudd View Post

          You remember when Jesus said to do certain things without neglecting others?

          We are talking about a complete abandonment of reality and truth. I assure you it is possible to maintain Godly positions on abortion and homosexuality without abandoning reality and truth and character. It is NOT either or.

          However, truthfulness and integrity are fundamental basics for any position. You start there. Who did Jesus praise? Those who on some level exhibited purity of heart. Who did He condemn? Those who embraced lies and falsehoods in themselves and in others.
          Well said and biblically supported.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by thormas View Post

            Well said and biblically supported.
            The fact that you support what ox has said and says it is scripturally supported shows the spiritual bankruptcy of you both.


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            • #21
              Originally posted by mossrose View Post

              The fact that you support what ox has said and says it is scripturally supported shows the spiritual bankruptcy of you both.
              We have established your poverty of understanding of the Bible........so I consider the source and add: blah, blah, blah.......:+}

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              • #22
                Originally posted by mossrose View Post

                So because you seem to think that the Democrats are completely truthful and full of integrity that it outweighs the evil that they do. Got it.

                Jesus condemned the self-righteous hypocrites, the Pharisees, who said one thing and did another. Which we could compare the Democrats to today. As well as those who call themselves Christians but support the evil done by those who claim to be truthful.

                Talk about abandoning the truth. You seem to excel at that.
                Nothing in this world is all good or all bad. Trying to frame the discussion in those sorts of terms is a falsehood of its own. Its a matter of which is worse.

                What has been happening since the election is a set of purposed and incredibly destructive falsehoods taking advantage of existing paranoia and fear, all for the purpose of feeding a certain ego and campaign coffers. A con foisted on hundreds of millions. Jim Baker looks moral and upright in this company. There is no excuse for any of it, and the negative impact on the internal stability of this country and those around the world that benefit from it will resound for years if not decades.
                My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

                If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

                This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
                  Well, given the Governor General of New Zealand also has that power, I guess you guys are in a banana republic as well.
                  It isn't used.

                  No governor general in New Zealand's history has ever used any of the unusual powers of their office. The underlying reason they don't get used is because the Governor General is viewed as a ceremonial role rather than a partisan political role. If you are familiar with the Queen of England, her role is similar there... on paper she possesses a whole host of powers, in practice her family are well aware that the people tolerate their existence on the grounds that they do nothing but wave and give speeches and don't interfere in politics in the slightest.

                  Likewise the governor general here technically exists as a representative of the Queen of England, and like the Queen of England technical possesses a long list of powers... that have never been used in the history of the country. I agree that a review of what those powers are might find some of them weren't sensible and should be removed. However, given that the idea of becoming a Republic and thereby disestablishing the governor-general's position gets regularly tossed around, any governor general who annoyed the public by using any of their powers, would probably find themselves rapidly out of a job.
                  "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                  "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                  "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by mossrose View Post

                    The fact that you support what ox has said and says it is scripturally supported shows the spiritual bankruptcy of you both.
                    No, it shows that they disagree with you. No more.
                    America - too good to let the conservatives drag it back to 1950.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by thormas View Post
                      We have established your poverty of understanding of the Bible........so I consider the source and add: blah, blah, blah.......:+}
                      Indeed, it isn't as if Jesus was against abortion or homosexuality either. Those are Mossy's personal crusades, not Jesus's.
                      "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                      "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                      "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                        Indeed, it isn't as if Jesus was against abortion or homosexuality either. Those are Mossy's personal crusades, not Jesus's.
                        Those are both lies.


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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                          Those are both lies.
                          Violating the site rules by accusing me of lying, without backing up your statement?
                          "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                          "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                          "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by LiconaFan97 View Post
                            I know many on here will immediately dismiss this because it comes from the failing NYT but I still wanted to put it out there so that when this happens I can point to it. I'm also curious if anyone on here actually thinks it's not likely that Trump will pardon a number of people he's personally connected to on his way out the door.
                            Not just because it is NYT (although that's plenty reason enough) but also: "...according to two people briefed on the matter"

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by mossrose View Post

                              Those are both lies.
                              Gospel chapter and verse?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                                Indeed, it isn't as if Jesus was against abortion or homosexuality either. Those are Mossy's personal crusades, not Jesus's.
                                Too true......

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