Fun Fact:

[Terraceth]

The Electoral College keeps the rest of the country from being little more than colonies for half a dozen or fewer states. Without it candidates would only campaign in those few states free to ignore the needs or wants of anyone who doesn't live in them. It would literally turn over 90% of the nation into fly-over country

Except under the electoral college everything you said is still true. The rest of the country is little more than colonies for half a dozen or fewer states (the swing states). With it candidates do only campaign in those few states, free to ignore the rest of the country. It does turn over 90% of the nation into fly-over country. If you're not a swing state, you don't matter under the electoral college.

The removal of the electoral college would actually do a lot to remove what you talk about, because now every state could possibly make a difference. Under the electoral college, no one cares about the small states (except New Hampshire) because they're all reliably Democrat or Republican; you could campaign and campaign and campaign and get 10% more of the vote than your party normally would and you'd still gain not a single elector in a state like Wyoming or Hawaii. But under a popular vote at least some number of votes could possibly be gained. Small states certainly wouldn't get much attention but they'd get more than under the electoral college.

[LiconaFan97]

The Electoral College keeps the rest of the country from being little more than colonies for half a dozen or fewer states. Without it candidates would only campaign in those few states free to ignore the needs or wants of anyone who doesn't live in them. It would literally turn over 90% of the nation into fly-over country

There are already only around 6 states which matter. And doesn't it strike you as just a bad system when everyone knew Biden was going to get more total votes but the only question was whether he'd win those six states?

[rogue06]

Some states, at least, have laws against this. That is, they have a law that prevents the reassignment of electors after the election. I don't know of any states with laws against assigning electors by the winner of the majority of counties rather than the popular vote - there may be some, but I don't know. But if a state chose to do so before the election, I dont' know how anybody could claim it illegal.

The sooner we get rid of this stupid electoral college the better.

The Electoral College keeps the rest of the country from being little more than colonies for half a dozen or fewer states. Without it candidates would only campaign in those few states free to ignore the needs or wants of anyone who doesn't live in them. It would literally turn over 90% of the nation into fly-over country

[Electric Skeptic]

States decide how to apportion their electors. They could give them all to, say, whichever candidate won majority of counties!

Some states, at least, have laws against this. That is, they have a law that prevents the reassignment of electors after the election. I don't know of any states with laws against assigning electors by the winner of the majority of counties rather than the popular vote - there may be some, but I don't know. But if a state chose to do so before the election, I dont' know how anybody could claim it illegal.

The sooner we get rid of this stupid electoral college the better.

[shunyadragon]

Both Maine and Nebraska have allowed electors to be split between the candidates for decades with the former doing so since 1972 and the latter since 1992.

True, but so what?

[rogue06]

News Story
https://www.foxnews.com/media/chris-...on-potus-elect


Actual Tweet:
https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/stat...78033619488768

[CivilDiscourse]

Am I the only one who doesn't see this tweet here?

News Story
https://www.foxnews.com/media/chris-...on-potus-elect


Actual Tweet:
https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/stat...78033619488768

[rogue06]

2016, after Trump won the election, He tweeted the above. Him and Michael Moore dreamt about using the electoral college to stop Trump.

Am I the only one who doesn't see this tweet here?

[rogue06]

Need the details of your claim . . . At present all the states Trump has asked to finagle this sort fraudulent behavior to manipulate the election have refused.

Both Maine and Nebraska have allowed electors to be split between the candidates for decades with the former doing so since 1972 and the latter since 1992.

[shunyadragon]

Explaining why Maine and Nebraska have decided to split their electors while in the other 48 it's winner-take-all

It was their option of the states to do this. Not bad, but they do not change from election to election to force a dishonest result as Trump proposes..

[LiconaFan97]

2016, after Trump won the election, He tweeted the above. Him and Michael Moore dreamt about using the electoral college to stop Trump.

Edited: Ok, I didn't realize the OP was CH's tweet verbatim. Yeah, he certainly shouldn't have said that and I wouldn't have supported states arbitrarily overruling the voters. I thought you were referencing the general argument for faithless electors.

[shunyadragon]

States decide how to apportion their electors. They could give them all to, say, whichever candidate won majority of counties!

Need the details of your claim . . . At present all the states Trump has asked to finagle this sort fraudulent behavior to manipulate the election have refused.

[Ronson]

Hardly the only ones. Rep. Jim Himes (D-CT) called on the Electoral College to deny Trump the presidency and here is a video of celebutards pleading with electors to give the election to Clinton, or anyone other than Trump in 2016.

Ironically with all of the asking for the electors to be "faithless" (IIRC, that's the technical term) and not vote for Trump, Hillary Clinton, lost five of her pledged electors while Trump only lost two. This became the largest numbers of electors to defect, surpassing the six who defected from Madison back in 1803.

Gawd, I hate Hollywood.

[CivilDiscourse]

Hardly the only ones. Rep. Jim Himes (D-CT) called on the Electoral College to deny Trump the presidency and here is a video of celebutards pleading with electors to give the election to Clinton, or anyone other than Trump in 2016.

Ironically with all of the asking for the electors to be "faithless" (IIRC, that's the technical term) and not vote for Trump, Hillary Clinton, lost five of her pledged electors while Trump only lost two. This became the largest numbers of electors to defect, surpassing the six who defected from Madison back in 1803.

Yeah, they thought that if they defected, the could convince gop electors to defect, throwing it into the house.

[rogue06]

2016, after Trump won the election, He tweeted the above. Him and Michael Moore dreamt about using the electoral college to stop Trump.

Hardly the only ones. Rep. Jim Himes (D-CT) called on the Electoral College to deny Trump the presidency and here is a video of celebutards pleading with electors to give the election to Clinton, or anyone other than Trump in 2016.

Ironically with all of the asking for the electors to be "faithless" (IIRC, that's the technical term) and not vote for Trump, Hillary Clinton, lost five of her pledged electors while Trump only lost two. This became the largest numbers of electors to defect, surpassing the six who defected from Madison back in 1803.