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  • #76
    Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
    No you are not!




    No I am complaining that the thread is not treating the issue of campaign funding equally concerning Republicans and Democrats.

    As far as the view of ACLU I simply said the final call is the courts and not the ACLU.
    But the relevance is that the actual is pointing out flaws, and those flaws are reason enough to not support it. As for the different treatment, that is because democrats kept taking "principled" stands before being hypocrites. Republicans see this as a speech issue and therefore are not hypocrites on this issue.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post

      Address the topic of the thread and answer the questions, and stop playing dodge ball..

      Start a thread on voter ID and I will respond there.
      Not your thread Frank. You don't dictate the terms of it.
      That's what
      - She

      Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
      - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

      I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
      Stephen R. Donaldson

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      • #78
        Beijing Biden

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

          Not your thread Frank. You don't dictate the terms of it.
          True. but I have the right to object to introducing moon landings in the topic.
          Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
          Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
          But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

          go with the flow the river knows . . .

          Frank

          I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

            But the relevance is that the actual is pointing out flaws, and those flaws are reason enough to not support it. As for the different treatment, that is because democrats kept taking "principled" stands before being hypocrites. Republicans see this as a speech issue and therefore are not hypocrites on this issue.
            They both still use the same campaign funding according to the law.
            Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
            Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
            But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

            go with the flow the river knows . . .

            Frank

            I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post

              They both still use the same campaign funding according to the law.
              They are, but if one group of people is saying it's wrong and doing it, that's different than the other group saying it's ok and doing it. It's not a scandal if a democrat has a secret gay relationship, but if a republican who is campaigning against gay marriage and calling gay people evil and degenerate is doing so, it's a pretty big deal, even if both relationships are legal.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post

                True. but I have the right to object to introducing moon landings in the topic.
                And they have the right to ignore you.
                That's what
                - She

                Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                Stephen R. Donaldson

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

                  And they have the right to ignore you.
                  Shuny doesn't grasp analogies very well.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

                    And they have the right to ignore you.
                    True, but I just do not respond outside the topic.
                    Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                    Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                    But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                    go with the flow the river knows . . .

                    Frank

                    I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
                      They are, but if one group of people is saying it's wrong and doing it, that's different than the other group saying it's ok and doing it. It's not a scandal if a democrat has a secret gay relationship, but if a republican who is campaigning against gay marriage and calling gay people evil and degenerate is doing so, it's a pretty big deal, even if both relationships are legal.
                      It's not a big deal to say that it should be outlawed, but still do it until it is outlawed.

                      To put it another way, it may be wrong for both sides to accept dark money, but it would be even more wrong if only the Republicans could accept dark money.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                        Shuny doesn't grasp analogies very well.
                        Analogies are fine, but I just stay on topic
                        Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                        Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                        But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                        go with the flow the river knows . . .

                        Frank

                        I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Stoic View Post

                          It's not a big deal to say that it should be outlawed, but still do it until it is outlawed.

                          To put it another way, it may be wrong for both sides to accept dark money, but it would be even more wrong if only the Republicans could accept dark money.
                          I do understand your rationalization of the hypocrisy, but that doesn't make it not hypocritical.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
                            I do understand your rationalization of the hypocrisy, but that doesn't make it not hypocritical.
                            What you don't appear to understand is the definition of hypocrisy.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Stoic View Post

                              What you don't appear to understand is the definition of hypocrisy.
                              Saying one thing, and doing the exact opposite? Like, decrying dark money then using it?

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
                                Saying one thing, and doing the exact opposite? Like, decrying dark money then using it?
                                Do you have a source for that definition?

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