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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
All I expect from Biden in this area is that he not interfere with any DOJ investigations. And I expect the DOJ to investigate any credible allegations.
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Originally posted by Terraceth View PostHowever, I am not so certain that Instant Runoff Voting is that big of a help to third parties, even if it is certainly better than what we have now...
The only way this will change is through party evolution. We can see this on one issue: Militarism. There is a growing number of people in this country that are tired of the US "World Policeman" role and it has shown up in both major parties, promoted by Trump and Rand Paul in the Republican Party and Tulsi Gabbard among the Democrats. In the case of Paul and Gabbard, it hasn't been a strong enough issue to draw voters to their other positions, but that may change as party evolution continues its path.
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
I'm a Libertarian, so I am always frustrated with the US two-party system. But it is a natural progression of strength in numbers, and the voter attitude of deciding between the lesser of two evils.
The only way this will change is through party evolution. We can see this on one issue: Militarism. There is a growing number of people in this country that are tired of the US "World Policeman" role and it has shown up in both major parties, promoted by Trump and Rand Paul in the Republican Party and Tulsi Gabbard among the Democrats. In the case of Paul and Gabbard, it hasn't been a strong enough issue to draw voters to their other positions, but that may change as party evolution continues its path.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Ronson View PostThe problem is the DOJ will be doing Biden's bidding soon, so I expect any investigations will have to be independent.
If you're afraid that there can never be any investigation of the president when the same party holds both Houses of Congress and the White House, now that Trump has busted all the norms, I chalk that up to just one more of the adverse consequences of electing someone like Trump. (If you don't think it can be blamed on Trump, and is just a feature of our political system, feel free to propose what you think should be done about it. Just don't expect it to happen in the next couple of years.)
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
Biden isn't Trump, so I'm not so worried about the DOJ doing his bidding. But I'm sure you can count on the Senate starting an investigation, whether it's needed or not. Whether it continues will of course depend on the results of the Georgia runoff election.
If you're afraid that there can never be any investigation of the president when the same party holds both Houses of Congress and the White House, now that Trump has busted all the norms, I chalk that up to just one more of the adverse consequences of electing someone like Trump. (If you don't think it can be blamed on Trump, and is just a feature of our political system, feel free to propose what you think should be done about it. Just don't expect it to happen in the next couple of years.)
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostBiden served as Obama's VP and Obama had the DOJ doing his bidding big time. His AG even referred to himself as Obama's "wingman".
Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
Meaningless rhetoric and failure to respond . . .
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
Examples would be welcome.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View Post...
And you wonder why everyone points and laughs whenever you start pontificating on American politics.
First, Ruth Bader Ginsburg was among the majority in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission. But then given the depth of your understanding of the subject (you likely watched a TYT video and now consider yourself an expert) and the fact you truly believe that the communist dictator Joseph Stalin was a right-winger, you probably think RBG was a Republican.
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So, Rogue, could you please clarify and/or correct yourself regarding Citizens United and in particular, RBG's support for it?
As for Stalin being left-wing or right-wing, that likely comes from another thread but judging by your Trump-esque attack I would guess that you believe Stalin to have been left-wing. If that is the case, I suggest you give the following Quora topic a read for a good number of decent replies to just that question.
https://www.quora.com/Is-Stalinism-l...-or-right-wingLast edited by casaba; 11-28-2020, 11:14 AM.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThe entire Collusion Delusion was pushed by Obama's DOJ who knew it was codswallop otherwise they wouldn't have lied to the FISA court about the evidence and even altered and falsified the evidence. To say that Obama was blissfully unaware of what was going on is inconceivable unless you wish to posit that he was mind-numbingly incompetent and oblivious to a degree that stretches credibility well past the breaking point.
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Originally posted by casaba View Post
Well Rogue, you did get me to go and read up on Citizens United. Your claim that RBG was in the majority is extremely misleading. The case was largely decided on a 5-4 basis, split along the at-the-time standard conservative-liberal split: Kennedy, Roberts, Alito, Scalia and Thomas concurring and RBG, Breyer, Stevens and Sotomeyer dissenting. There was one portion which was supported by 8 justices (only Thomas dissented on this portion). This was for upholding the disclosure provisions, i.e., Thomas was in favor of more Dark Money.
So, Rogue, could you please clarify and/or correct yourself regarding Citizens United and in particular, RBG's support for it?
Originally posted by casaba View PostAs for Stalin being left-wing or right-wing, that likely comes from another thread but judging by your Trump-esque attack I would guess that you believe Stalin to have been left-wing. If that is the case, I suggest you give the following Quora topic a read for a good number of decent replies to just that question.
https://www.quora.com/Is-Stalinism-l...-or-right-wing
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
I don't doubt that Obama was aware of the Russia investigation, but that's not the same as the DOJ doing his bidding. (Of course, if doing things "by the book" is considered doing his bidding, I would argue that there's nothing wrong with that.)
And yes, I'm familiar where the "by the book" remark comes from -- an email that Sally Rice sent to herself in the final days of the Obama Administration where she repeatedly used that phrase in describing the investigation. An email that has all the earmarks of a CYA attempt of establishing documentation for that claim.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostChange will be difficult as the two party system has become entrenched. Look at how hard it is to even get a third party candidate on the ballot, not to mention how tax money is given to the Republican and Democrat candidates
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