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Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
Trumps quotes and actions concerning Putin speak for themselves.
The undeniable fact remains it is the left that is enamored with gulags, reeducation camps and making enemies lists. Deal with it.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostDid you dislocate anything stretching so far trying to make a comparison?
The undeniable fact remains it is the left that is enamored with gulags, reeducation camps and making enemies lists. Deal with it.
"The undeniable fact remains it is the religious, the believers in God, who stod behind 9/11 and who continue to kill, protest againt free speech and threathen the innocent. Deal with it."
The world is a lot more complicated than you think and there is no such thing as "the left" in the form and shape it exists in your simplifications. Deal with it."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostYou appear to be easily fooled.
It is on the left where you'll find those who have been talking about those things for much of the last year.
Remember the troop pull out that betrayed the Kurds and let the Russians in the Middle East.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by Charles View Post
That is about as balanced as saying:
"The undeniable fact remains it is the religious, the believers in God, who stod behind 9/11 and who continue to kill, protest againt free speech and threathen the innocent. Deal with it."
The world is a lot more complicated than you think and there is no such thing as "the left" in the form and shape it exists in your simplifications. Deal with it.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
You appear to so easily fooled.
Remember the troop pull out that betrayed the Kurds and let the Russians in the Middle East.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostRemember our bombing of Russian forces in Syria?
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order...ons-on-russia/
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Originally posted by LiconaFan97 View Post
Somehow I find this one far more offensive. It happens to come from Mountain Man's favorite cartoonist. You can find his full collection here which is just lovely.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
Please note the Trump backed out of the Open Skies Treaty helping NATO with intelligence against Russia and ordered the intelligence planes used in this to be dismantled.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
You appear to so easily fooled.
Remember the troop pull out that betrayed the Kurds and let the Russians in the Middle East.
Geez, if you want to talk about "betrayal" you need look no further than Hillary Clinton leaving Americans dangling in the wind in Benghazi. Get some perspective. If you're going to get weepy you should do it over American deaths.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostInvalid attempt to whitewash a growing tendency among the left to embrace just the sort of horrors that arose from their side in the first place.
To talk about "whitewashing" anything is completely of tracks. I none of the horrors you refer to has anything to do with me, nor with the majoiry of modern day leftists (who are not "the left). By the way - and I have repeated this quite often, I do not even belong to "the left" or to be more exact I do not lean to the left. That makes no difference to the line of reasoning I provide but exposes the desperation behind your absurd idea that I am trying to whitewash anything. If anything needs a wash it is your dirty attempts."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
Brookings compiled a list of actions the Trump administration (and Congress) has taken against Russia in the past three years. Trump has taken more actions against Russia in three years than Obama did in eight. But the MSM doesn't cover it or they play it down because it doesn't fit their narrative. And then people like Shunya never know about it.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order...ons-on-russia/
Originally posted by rogue06 View PostYou mean like when Trump- accused Russia of deploying land-based cruise missiles saying that they violated the "spirit and intent" of the 1987 Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty -- something Obama refused to do?
- bombed Syria's Shayrat Airbase (Russia's allies) when they use chemical weapons in 2017?
- again bombed Syrian forces in 2018 killing over 200 Russian "mercenaries"?
- tried to get Merkel to stop importing natural gas from Russia which would deal a serious blow to the Russian economy?
- sent weapons, including a bunch of anti-tank missiles, to Ukraine so they can fight the Russians?
- imposed stricter sanctions[1] than those initially called for by Congress including imposing sanctions on Ramzan Kadyrov, a close Putin ally?
- ordered the expulsion of 60 Russian diplomats and closure of Russian consulate in Seattle in response to Russia's poisoning of Sergei and Yulia Skripal (Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov declared that the expulsion of the total of 153 Russian diplomats by 28 countries was the result of the Trump Administration "blackmailing" other nations)?
- approved sanctions placed on builders of the Nord Stream 2 Russia-to-Germany gas pipelines?
That sort of "constant caving to putin"?
1. to be fair this has been a bit of a mixed bag in that earlier Trump expressed reluctance about enforcing some sanctions that he had signed into law.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostHere's a quick one I put together awhile back
tried to get Merkel to stop importing natural gas from Russia which would deal a serious blow to the Russian economy?
The Nordstream II pipeline undermines the purpose of NATO. Here we are, footing most of the bill for NATO to protect Europe against Russia, and Germany jumps into bed with them? Forget about tanks and bombs, all Russia need do is turn off the spigot and cripple Germany (and other NATO nations using that gas). It's ridiculous.
Trump was also pushing his America First policy because the US can supply much of the energy needs for Europe, but it would cost a bit more to transport it. So Germany said "Nah, we'll deal with an enemy for cheaper." Unbelievable.
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Originally posted by Charles View Post
The point - which you obviously missed - is that there is no such thing as "the left" as some sort of unity throughout the entire history and ranging from every form of extreme to moderist leftist minded person. "The left" you refer to is a construction in your own head. If you go back and read my post, you see see how I pointed this out to you and made it rather obvious to you how you would not use a concept like "The left" with regard to "the religious".
To talk about "whitewashing" anything is completely of tracks. I none of the horrors you refer to has anything to do with me, nor with the majoiry of modern day leftists (who are not "the left). By the way - and I have repeated this quite often, I do not even belong to "the left" or to be more exact I do not lean to the left. That makes no difference to the line of reasoning I provide but exposes the desperation behind your absurd idea that I am trying to whitewash anything. If anything needs a wash it is your dirty attempts.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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