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  • #31
    Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
    Cos they were being notified by Smartmatic in Frankfurt that Biden was way behind and they’d better come up with a lot more ballots. And we can prove everything I just said
    Their proof is probably that their blind computer repairman who they claim had what was totally Hunter Biden's laptop months ago read the email on that, but which has since been lost/destroyed.

    That's their usual level of evidence.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      Their proof is probably that their blind computer repairman who they claim had what was totally Hunter Biden's laptop months ago read the email on that, but which has since been lost/destroyed.

      That's their usual level of evidence.
      Yet despite checking Smartmatic's website and the Frankfurt phone directory no Frankfurt office for the company exists! Another of Guiliani's delusions perhaps? Or perhaps he was just hungry and was thinking about something to eat and made a mental connection with a hot dog.
      "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" Attrib. Seneca 4 BCE - 65 CE

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Ronson View Post

        I'm prepared to see what his "proof" is. You aren't.
        One can only opine that if Rudy has all this "proof" why are the court cases being rejected?

        Originally posted by Ronson View Post
        Obviously a metaphor, about severing the head of a snake.
        Well we assume that but the way it was offered was decidedly odd. Do you use a throat slashing gesture when you choose to use the metaphor about cutting off the snake at the head?

        Originally posted by Ronson View Post
        I suspect you are offended because Germany was mentioned in all of this.
        The reference to Frankfurt is even stranger because a Frankfurt office for Smartmatic does not appear to exist. I searched both Smartmatic's available online pages and the Frankfurt business directory but found no contacts in Frankfurt.

        You are welcome to do your own internet search to see if you can succeed where I could not.

        So why Guiliani mentioned Frankfurt is another mystery.

        However, during my online search I did find [sarcasm alert] a charming piece of “Jew-baiting” on a site called Freedom Fighter Radio where an article written on November 11 by JohnnyInfidel stated:

        Lord Mark Malloch Brown, a George Soros lieutenant, whose company Smartmatic, is intimately tied to Dominion Voting Systems who flipped votes from Trump to Biden. His machine was used in all the swing states. This would explain the MICHIGAN 200,000 vote sudden dump of Biden ballots, while WISCONSIN got a 100,000 Biden vote dump late night delivery.

        Perhaps JohnnyInfidel believes he really does have a giraffe in his pocket.


        "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" Attrib. Seneca 4 BCE - 65 CE

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
          One can only opine that if Rudy has all this "proof" why are the court cases being rejected?


          I know one was rejected because he asked that some determined amount of votes be discarded. I would be hesitant to to honor such a request as well. The response should be for special elections.

          Well we assume that but the way it was offered was decidedly odd. Do you use a throat slashing gesture when you choose to use the metaphor about cutting off the snake at the head?

          The reference to Frankfurt is even stranger because a Frankfurt office for Smartmatic does not appear to exist. I searched both Smartmatic's available online pages and the Frankfurt business directory but found no contacts in Frankfurt.

          You are welcome to do your own internet search to see if you can succeed where I could not.

          So why Guiliani mentioned Frankfurt is another mystery.
          Without seeing what he's talking about, I don't know. I assume it will all be made public eventually.

          However, during my online search I did find [sarcasm alert] a charming piece of “Jew-baiting” on a site called Freedom Fighter Radio where an article written on November 11 by JohnnyInfidel stated:

          Lord Mark Malloch Brown, a George Soros lieutenant, whose company Smartmatic, is intimately tied to Dominion Voting Systems who flipped votes from Trump to Biden. His machine was used in all the swing states. This would explain the MICHIGAN 200,000 vote sudden dump of Biden ballots, while WISCONSIN got a 100,000 Biden vote dump late night delivery.

          Perhaps JohnnyInfidel believes he really does have a giraffe in his pocket.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Ronson View Post

            Look at videos of Trump in the 1980s or 1990s and compare them to him today. It's the same person.

            Do the same with Biden. He is clearly having difficulty concentrating and recalling now as compared to earlier years.
            Yeah, love him or hate him he is exactly the same as he was a 10 or 20 years ago.


            I'm always still in trouble again

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Ronson View Post

              I know one was rejected because he asked that some determined amount of votes be discarded.
              From what I have read the president’s court case successes alleging election fraud and various other irregularities now stands at twenty lost and two won.

              Originally posted by Ronson View Post
              Without seeing what he's talking about, I don't know. I assume it will all be made public eventually.
              Or perhaps this will go the way of the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity that was set up in May 2017.
              "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" Attrib. Seneca 4 BCE - 65 CE

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                You're still not getting it. OK, really plainly: I DON'T TRUST ANY NEWS SOURCE. The POINT is, you do. You consider news stories "evidence."
                News stories are not evidence in and of themselves, but when no one denies the news stories nor presents contrary news stories nor denials why should I reject the news stories from reputable source like AP. Giuliani has not denied nor objected to the the news stories. Giuliani has not objected to the news stories. Such stories of courtroom behavior if false is slander. No one is claiming such.

                Your paranoid distrust is unreasonable.
                Last edited by shunyadragon; 11-22-2020, 08:24 AM.
                Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                go with the flow the river knows . . .

                Frank

                I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                  I know one was rejected because he asked that some determined amount of votes be discarded. I would be hesitant to to honor such a request as well. The response should be for special elections.



                  Without seeing what he's talking about, I don't know. I assume it will all be made public eventually.


                  The count of law suites rejected or withdrawn is now 24. No evidence of fraud nor affidavits submitted in court as evidence to support the accusations as fraud.

                  Source: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pennsylvania-judge-throws-out-trump-lawsuit-biden-win



                  Pennsylvania judge throws out Trump lawsuit, clearing way for Biden win

                  Judge clears way for Biden win in battleground state

                  A Pennsylvania judge threw out a lawsuit that sought to prevent the state from certifying the election results in favor of Democrat Joe Biden, who won the state by about 80,000 votes.

                  U.S. Middle District Judge Matthew Brann in Williamsport, Pa., rejected a request by the Trump 2020 Campaign for an injunction that would stop the certification of the election, as the campaign seeks to overturn results is swing states across the country.

                  “Plaintiffs ask this Court to disenfranchise almost seven million voters,” Brann said Saturday. “This Court has been unable to find any case in which a plaintiff has sought such a drastic remedy in the contest of an election, in terms of the sheer volume of votes asked to be invalidated.”

                  “One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption, such that this Court would have no option but to regrettably grant the proposed injunctive relief despite the impact it would have on such a large group of citizens,” he added.

                  The president argued that the Constitution's guarantee of equal protection under the law was violated by the state, when counties took different measures to inform voters of technical issues that arose with the unprecedented number of mail-in ballots.

                  Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar, along with seven counties which were sued by the Trump campaign and where Biden led, argued Trump had already raised similar claims.

                  “Among the grounds that could justify a denial of leave to amend are undue delay, bad faith, dilatory motive, prejudice, and futility,” the federal judge said Saturday.

                  “Given that: (1) Plaintiffs have already amended once as of right; (2) Plaintiffs seek to amend simply in order to effectively reinstate their initial complaint and claims; and (3) the deadline for counties in Pennsylvania to certify their election results to Secretary Boockvar is November 23, 2020, amendment would unduly delay resolution of the issues,” the ruling by Brann said.

                  Even if Trump had been able to successfully overturn the state’s vote tabulation and win Pennsylvania, the state’s 20 electoral votes would not have been enough to secure him re-election after Georgia confirmed Biden flipped the traditionally red state Friday.

                  Recounts still are being conducted in Wisconsin where Biden initially won by more than 20,000 votes.

                  Michigan is expected to certify election results in favor of a Biden presidency Monday, along with Pennsylvania -- at which point Trump will have officially lost any possibility of securing the required 270 Electoral College votes needed for re-election.

                  © Copyright Original Source




                  Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                  Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                  But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                  go with the flow the river knows . . .

                  Frank

                  I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                    The count of law suites rejected or withdrawn is now 24. No evidence of fraud nor affidavits submitted in court as evidence to support the accusations as fraud.

                    Pennsylvania judge throws out Trump lawsuit, clearing way for Biden win
                    I've tried to find a comprehensive list of the Trump lawsuits that have been either rejected or withdrawn, but I can't find one. Two different sources have said that the Pennsylvania lawsuit was either the 29th or 30th lawsuit be be rejected or withdrawn, so I think your count of 24 is probably slightly low. The same two sources said that two of Trump's lawsuits have been successful, but I can't find any articles about them. I assume the victories were very limited and won't be affecting the election result.

                    *********************

                    On an unrelated matter... does your forum profile contain your actual photo? If so, then let me say that it takes a special person to pull off wearing a bolo tie, and I think you do it in a spectacular manner.
                    "The Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work and then they get elected and prove it." - P. J. O'Rourke

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Reepicheep View Post

                      I've tried to find a comprehensive list of the Trump lawsuits that have been either rejected or withdrawn, but I can't find one. Two different sources have said that the Pennsylvania lawsuit was either the 29th or 30th lawsuit be be rejected or withdrawn, so I think your count of 24 is probably slightly low. The same two sources said that two of Trump's lawsuits have been successful, but I can't find any articles about them. I assume the victories were very limited and won't be affecting the election result.

                      *********************

                      On an unrelated matter... does your forum profile contain your actual photo? If so, then let me say that it takes a special person to pull off wearing a bolo tie, and I think you do it in a spectacular manner.
                      Yes it is a real photo of me and the bolo tie was my father's and he gave it to me shortly before he passed.

                      There is one partial win where the US Supreme Court partial over through the State Supreme Court of Pennsylvania decision on a technicality date ballots could be accepted, but it was only partial, and amounted to only a few thousand votes. One court decision had a negotiated result allowing more observers in the ballot counting. I think one or two were rejected on appeal.
                      Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                      Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                      But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                      go with the flow the river knows . . .

                      Frank

                      I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        It seems like only yesterday you would smugly scold anyone using sources other than your beloved Gray Lady ...
                        That's never been my position as pointed out to you enough times that I'm calling you out as a lying liar on this one. Hell, you yourself handed me a CNBC story in place of the Daily Fail, what, a week ago, and I thanked you for it, then got to work checking it out.
                        .
                        Originally posted by Juvenal View Post

                        Personally, I'm thinking you shouldn't be reading the Daily Fail, but seeing as that's not the case, the best response is to thank you for your thoughts.
                        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        Originally posted by Juvenal View Post
                        That's better.

                        That'd be the time you executed the GoPro faceplant, "smugly" dismissing an op/ed cowritten by Osterholm, the doctor, and Kashkari, the Fed president you obviously hadn't read.
                        .
                        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        ... demonstrating why doctors should not act like experts on the economics and economists shouldn't talk about medicine.
                        Originally posted by Juvenal View Post
                        That's this op/ed, from August 7, 2020, co-authored with Neel Kashkari.

                        Here’s How to Crush the Virus Until Vaccines Arrive
                        To save lives, and save the economy, we need another lockdown.

                        By Michael T. Osterholm and Neel Kashkari
                        Dr. Osterholm is director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota. Mr. Kashkari is president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis.

                        Getting a little forgetful in your dotage, rouge? Here's another reminder.
                        .
                        Originally posted by Juvenal View Post
                        Your posts are so filled with misinformation no meaningful conversation can occur that doesn't begin with debunking your falsehoods. That's one thing from a member, but your presence on staff is a virus infecting the whole board. You should resign from the mod staff so thoughtful posters can ignore you.

                        The partisan poison you swill has warped you so badly you can't think straight.

                        It supersedes your religious beliefs, making you willing to toss fellow Christians to the curb. It displaces the dispassionate focus on truth that clearly runs through your posts in Natural Science. It's made you into a defender of a serial liar so far beyond the typical politician fact checkers have had to create a whole new category beyond the countable pinocchios: lies endlessly repeated even after being debunked. All politicians lie, but he's alone in that category.

                        And it's made you into a liar yourself.

                        Was it worth it?

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                        • #42
                          Do you really want me to look up and post all of the instances of where you sneered at other people's sources (just like in the example you gave -- "Daily Fail") and post them here so everyone can see how full of excrement you are?

                          Better, yet forget it. You really aren't worth the effort. Just try to fail better next time.

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            Do you really want me to look up and post all of the instances of where you sneered at other people's sources (just like in the example you gave -- "Daily Fail") and post them here so everyone can see how full of excrement you are?

                            Better, yet forget it. You really aren't worth the effort. Just try to fail better next time.
                            I recommend you deal with that beam in your own eye concerning sneering at and deriding other people's sources.

                            As a point of information The Daily Heil [as the Mail is also known] is a RW British tabloid. The paper was founded by Alfred and Harold Harmsworth. After Alfred's death in 1922 Harold would continue to run the paper.

                            Harold was a noted supporter of Fascism [Hurrah for the Blackshirts is an infamous headline from the Daily Mail in1934 and met Hitler. His legacy lives on in that paper.
                            "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" Attrib. Seneca 4 BCE - 65 CE

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post

                              Yes it is a real photo of me and the bolo tie was my father's and he gave it to me shortly before he passed..
                              Just as an aside - I think things like that - given by people you cared about to you before they died - are really special. I often wish I had more things to remember some of my loved ones by.
                              America - too good to let the conservatives drag it back to 1950.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                                Do you really want me to look up and post all of the instances of where you sneered at other people's sources (just like in the example you gave -- "Daily Fail") and post them here so everyone can see how full of excrement you are?
                                That's not what you said, you lying liar.

                                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                                It seems like only yesterday you would smugly scold anyone using sources other than your beloved Gray Lady ...
                                And that's not even the full depth of your dishonesty. You posted that deliberate lie looking for excuses to pack even more lies into your posts without repercussion.

                                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                                Don't ever criticize anyone else's sources after that one
                                People looking for truth begin by discarding proven sources of misinformation.

                                Better, yet forget it. You really aren't worth the effort. Just try to fail better next time.
                                This is a pattern with you. You trial balloon baseless accusations to see if you get any pushback, then double down if nobody smacks you for it, and retreat like a sniveling coward when you're busted.

                                People with integrity, and especially those representing a website, just own the mistake, and correct it. You're a serial embarrassment to TWeb. Resign from staff.

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