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The ethics of a hypothetical pre-natal screening for Homosexuality
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
Lack of ability to care for one's self is not grounds for terminating a life."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
I realise it offends your patriarchal sensibilities but a woman has the right to terminate her pregnancy irrespective of what you think. It is her decision, and hers alone.That's what
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Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
I realise it offends your patriarchal sensibilities but a woman has the right to terminate her pregnancy irrespective of what you think. It is her decision, and hers alone.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
Has nothing to do with patriarchy and everything to do with the biological reality that your "right" destroys a human individual.
However, this thread is not about the ethics of abortion per se. It is about the ethics surrounding a hypothetical pre-natal screening process."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostSo what if the woman decides that she wants a "post-birth abortion" and decides to kill her young children. Is that her decision, and hers alone as well?"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
That scenario is not the topic of this thread. However, I suppose you have heard of something called Post Natal/Post-partum Depression?
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
Well, lets just assume we are talking about the topic of the thread, which you said is something you wouldn't tolerate.
You introduced the word "tolerate" in your reply at post #30 where you wrote:
So, you are willing to tolerate the "genocidal" style actions in order to preserve abortion, even though it may result in a drastic reduction in the number of homsexuals in the world. [sic]
Thereby ascribing attitudes to me that I have never expressed. You are continuing to do so in your latest post #52.
Furthermore your initial contention is purely hypothetical as at present, as far as I am aware, there is no in-utero screening process for identifying any future sexual orientation of the embryo.
If you want a discussion on the ethics of producing designer babies it might have been more honest to state that at the outset.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
It might be wise to stop making assumptions. They are invariably wrong.
You introduced the word "tolerate" in your reply at post #30 where you wrote:
So, you are willing to tolerate the "genocidal" style actions in order to preserve abortion, even though it may result in a drastic reduction in the number of homsexuals in the world. [sic]
Thereby ascribing attitudes to me that I have never expressed. You are continuing to do so in your latest post #52.
Furthermore your initial contention is purely hypothetical as at present, as far as I am aware, there is no in-utero screening process for identifying any future sexual orientation of the embryo.
If you want a discussion on the ethics of producing designer babies it might have been more honest to state that at the outset.
Since you objected to the description that you would then "tolerate" such behavior, it means you won't.
So, what do you do about it? Shun them? Try to get them fired? Publicly out them for their private choices? How do you not tolerate that behavior?
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
That scenario is not the topic of this thread. However, I suppose you have heard of something called Post Natal/Post-partum Depression?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
It's a dichotomy. You either tolerate it or you do not.
Do you "tolerate" the high levels of violent crime in the USA?
Or do you recognise that the issues of hugely disproportionate levels of education and income, serious issues concerning poverty, drug abuse, lack of opportunity, and all the other myriad social issues we know exist within the USA, combined with a huge population within a vast landmass, have direct bearing on the incidence of violent crime within your country?
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostDepression is hardly a legitimate excuse for murdering people.
Have you never read Goethe's Faust?"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
Post natal depression can, and sometimes tragically does, lead to infanticide.
Have you never read Goethe's Faust?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
To tolerate something is [by definition] to: [a] to allow the existence, presence, practice, or act of without prohibition or hindrance; permit; [b] to endure without repugnance; put up with. [my emphasis]
Do you "tolerate" the high levels of violent crime in the USA?
Or do you recognise that the issues of hugely disproportionate levels of education and income, serious issues concerning poverty, drug abuse, lack of opportunity, and all the other myriad social issues we know exist within the USA, combined with a huge population within a vast landmass, have direct bearing on the incidence of violent crime within your country?
What about genocidal abortions to remove gays? What do you do to not tolerate it?
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
Tolerate it? No. We pass laws punishing crime, we put more cops on the streets to stop crime. We often refuse to hire felons, We tell our kids to stay away from criminals, etc.
What about genocidal abortions to remove gays? What do you do to not tolerate it?
However, you do seem to prefer the easy and simple solutions when you are addressing complex issues.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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