Republicans, What Will Satisfy You?

[Gondwanaland]

That's obviously a problem, but in a way it's one of the least.

To actually fix the US system, I'd turn it into a one-House parliamentary democracy (i.e. abolish the presidency, abolish the senate, thus leaving the House as the governing body making the Speaker of the House position the leader of the government. I'd make the House properly proportional, the Cabinet posts would all be filled by House members who would retain their House seats while serving in Cabinet.), and reform the supreme court to not be politically appointed nor serve for life, and ideally remove most of the rights from the constitution so that SCOTUS doesn't get creative ideas about striking down laws based on creative interpretations of those rights. Then add some decent anti-corruption laws, and a decent way of electing House members - e.g. either preferential / instant runoff / STV, or MMP...

...and you might be able to salvage the country and return it to first-world status.

No thanks. The country of • Edited by a Moderator • who still bow to a Queen have nothing to stand on to try to deconstruct the greatest country on the planet. No matter how much you want to do so.

[Mountain Man]

The plausible explanation is that this was a free and fair election...

Nope. That doesn't explain the numerous discrepancies and literally impossible statistical anomalies, all in China Joe's favor. For example, this happened in Wisconsin:

Note that within the first 40 minutes after Wisconsin's vote counts began publishing at 8 P.M., Trump established a lead that basically held steady at around 51% to 47% for the next seven hours, as the total count climbed to nearly 3 million votes.

Note also that the two candidates remained fairly close throughout the night as the count rose from about 500,000 to 3 million, implying that this was not a case of Trump getting huge in-person numbers, only to have them erased by slightly more huge Biden mail-in numbers, as the Democrat media would have you believe. Rather, Biden voters appeared to have slogged to the polls and early vote drop-off bins as much as anyone else, contrary to the notion that they cowered in fear of COVID and all voted by mail.

Everything was quiet as occasional vote updates trickled in: 2,200 ballots at 2:20 A.M.; 5,900 votes at 3:08 A.M. Suddenly, 170,000 votes — 5% of the total state count — came crashing in in one dump (there were over 340 data time series delivered, making this one 17 times larger than average). Trump had been ahead by 108,000 votes at 3:42 A.M., only to be behind by 9,000 votes an instant later. (With 99% of the vote counted and the state called for Biden, the basement-dwelling candidate had a 20,000-vote lead.)

In summary: With the ballot count approaching 3 million out of a total of less than 3.3 million recorded, the worst presidential candidate in history, who could barely get his tired body across the Delaware state line for a 60-person "rally," at 3:42 A.M. on the night of the election bagged a net of 118,215 votes in a single massive data dump to take a narrow lead. And that lead then just stayed nice and steady till the count slowly finished eight days later.

The statistical word for this is bullfeathers.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...wisconsin.html

[Starlight]

Nope. That doesn't explain the numerous discrepancies and literally impossible statistical anomalies, all in China Joe's favor. For example, this happened in Wisconsin:

Note that within the first 40 minutes after Wisconsin's vote counts began publishing at 8 P.M., Trump established a lead that basically held steady at around 51% to 47% for the next seven hours, as the total count climbed to nearly 3 million votes.

Note also that the two candidates remained fairly close throughout the night as the count rose from about 500,000 to 3 million, implying that this was not a case of Trump getting huge in-person numbers, only to have them erased by slightly more huge Biden mail-in numbers, as the Democrat media would have you believe. Rather, Biden voters appeared to have slogged to the polls and early vote drop-off bins as much as anyone else, contrary to the notion that they cowered in fear of COVID and all voted by mail.

Everything was quiet as occasional vote updates trickled in: 2,200 ballots at 2:20 A.M.; 5,900 votes at 3:08 A.M. Suddenly, 170,000 votes — 5% of the total state count — came crashing in in one dump (there were over 340 data time series delivered, making this one 17 times larger than average). Trump had been ahead by 108,000 votes at 3:42 A.M., only to be behind by 9,000 votes an instant later. (With 99% of the vote counted and the state called for Biden, the basement-dwelling candidate had a 20,000-vote lead.)

In summary: With the ballot count approaching 3 million out of a total of less than 3.3 million recorded, the worst presidential candidate in history, who could barely get his tired body across the Delaware state line for a 60-person "rally," at 3:42 A.M. on the night of the election bagged a net of 118,215 votes in a single massive data dump to take a narrow lead. And that lead then just stayed nice and steady till the count slowly finished eight days later.

The statistical word for this is bullfeathers.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...wisconsin.html

What drivel.

I've watched enough elections to know the basics that different areas report their votes at different times and vary as to whether they report only when their tally is finished or give regular updates.

Your story sounds totally normal for an election. I've seen that sort of thing happen literally dozens of times in elections both in my country and in the US. It will be a case of one of the big urban areas that lean democratic having finished their count and reporting it.

It's pretty sad you're reduced to recounting common election occurrences as if they were abnormal.

[Starlight]

No thanks. The country of • Edited by a Moderator • who still bow to a Queen have nothing to stand on to try to deconstruct the greatest country on the planet. No matter how much you want to do so.

You sore that your once-great country is now so pathetic and so far outstripped by my small country? Sad.

[Electric Skeptic]

I am cautiously optimistic that several tens of millions of others will have similar views.

They might well. If nothing else, Trump has proven that you'll never fail going for the lowest common denominator.

Think about it...this is a man with a proven record as a liar, who has protested as unfair elections in 2012, 2016, 2018 and now 2020, and never been able to demonstrate his claims. Yet his followers continue to insist - despite the lack of any evidence - that he's right, and this election was fraudulent. They are demonstrating that regardless of any other factors, they will believe whatever he says. It's deeply worrying for the future of our democracy and our country as a whole.

[Electric Skeptic]

No thanks. The country of • Edited by a Moderator • who still bow to a Queen have nothing to stand on to try to deconstruct the greatest country on the planet. No matter how much you want to do so.

What is wrong with you? Insulting England and then parroting the sheep's line "greatest country on the planet"? Are you ill?

And, of course, nobody is trying to "deconstruct" America. That's paranoia.

[NorrinRadd]

They might well. If nothing else, Trump has proven that you'll never fail going for the lowest common denominator.

Thank you for so clearly demonstrating the attitude of the elites toward real, normal people.

Think about it...this is a man with a proven record as a liar, who has protested as unfair elections in 2012, 2016, 2018 and now 2020, and never been able to demonstrate his claims. Yet his followers continue to insist - despite the lack of any evidence - that he's right, and this election was fraudulent. They are demonstrating that regardless of any other factors, they will believe whatever he says. It's deeply worrying for the future of our democracy and our country as a whole.

By way of review, I am not claiming that "this election was fraudulent." I await the results of all court cases in that regard. I *do* claim the election was not "free and fair," given the activities of the information gate-keepers in Big Media and Big Tech (Big Social Media and Big Search).

I hope our beliefs and concomitant actions *do* doom the "democracy," and preserve and revive the Constitutional Federal Republic.

[EvoUK]

What is wrong with you? Insulting England and then parroting the sheep's line "greatest country on the planet"? Are you ill?

I believe he was going after New Zealand rather than England in that particular bigoted instance. The "greatest country on the planet" bit even after what his lot have done to it was funny though.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

You sore that your once-great country is now so pathetic and so far outstripped by my small country? Sad.

I think it is the puerility that is so pitiful, to wit the abusive language directed at an entire nation.

I have never quite ascertained if it is an attempt to bait [i.e. a form of trolling] or merely the reactions of someone who appears, from much of what they write, to live in a permanent state of resentment and peevishness!

[kiwimac]

No thanks. The country of • Edited by a Moderator • who still bow to a Queen have nothing to stand on to try to deconstruct the greatest country on the planet. No matter how much you want to do so.

"...the greatest country on the planet?"

Nope! You are not and you never were. As for the Royals, I'd take 'em a million times over the Orange Idiot and Moscow Mitch!

[Ronson]

What is wrong with you? Insulting England and then parroting the sheep's line "greatest country on the planet"? Are you ill?

His comment was in response to globalist foreigners picking apart the Constitution of the world's most successful democracy. And that is objectively true.
(and the sheep thing was about NZ)

And, of course, nobody is trying to "deconstruct" America. That's paranoia.

Deconstructing is exactly what they were doing. I thought it was amusing, though. Like Cubans telling us how to run our show.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

The real problem is the antiquated electoral system the US has for choosing its president. What might have worked quite well in 1787 for thirteen colonies and a few thousand voters does not play so well in a country of fifty colonies and over 153 million registered voters [as of 2018].

The sooner the American people demand the abolition of the Electoral College the better. I am not normally in favour of the FPTP method but in the case of the election of a president it seems the most sensible option. One citizen, one vote and the candidate that gets the most votes from the most citizens goes to the White House.

And no one noticed the deliberate mistake!

So here is the correction before I receive the ire of die-hard US patriots.

The phrase "a country of fifty colonies" should of course read "a country of fifty states"

[Mountain Man]

What drivel.

Thank you for the accurate summation of your post. Shrugging your shoulders at the problem doesn't make it go away.

[Ronson]

And no one noticed the deliberate mistake!

So here is the correction before I receive the ire of die-hard US patriots.

The phrase "a country of fifty colonies" should of course read "a country of fifty states"

Probably because die-hard US patriots didn't bother to read it.

Every democracy (every government for that matter) is flawed. But as far as democracies go, the US has done a relatively good job for the longest amount of time. So why should Americans care what Germans and New Zealanders think about restructuring it?

[Mountain Man]

But as far as democracies go, the US has done a relatively good job for the longest amount of time.

That's because the United States is explicitly not a democracy -- in fact, our Founding Fathers were extremely wary of such a system of government and deliberately designed the US to not be a democracy but a representative republic.