Trump now on "Plan C"

[Stoic]

One big difference already: Mail-in voting is requested, in much the same way absentee ballots are requested (regardless of what they call it). Some swing states in 2020 sent out unsolicited ballots as mail-in.

https://azsos.gov/votebymail

Some states with mail-in voting automatically send ballots to all voters. Most expect the voter to request a ballot.

Some states changed their procedures for the pandemic, and mailed ballots to all voters, or sent applications for mail-in ballots to all voters.

https://ballotpedia.org/All-mail_vot...ballot_systems

As for swing states, Nevada sent out unsolicited ballots, while Michigan, Wisconsin, and Georgia sent applications to all voters.

[oxmixmudd]

You needn't bother because your post was nothing but condemnations about a person we all know you hate with every fiber of your being. I've read it all before.

Like saying "OJ killed his wife because he's a nasty person" instead of "OJ killed his wife because her blood was on his clothes." You lean toward the former.

My post contains what is the truth about Donald Trump. It only seems like hatred to you because for some reason you would prefer not to be confronted with the truth of what Trump has done and is doing.

E.g. you think that me calling Trump a con stems from 'hatred of Trump'. It doesn't. It's simply a fact, he's a con. You need look no further than Trump University and the legal judgements against him to validate that fact. But instead you prefer to think only a person that hates Trump would be deeply concerned about the fact he is a con, as if a person being a con and taking advantage of large numbers of people is nothing to be concerned about. But this is a con holding the highest office in the land and using the power of that office to deceive and mislead others into giving him their money and trust. Yet you act as if this could not possibly be a legitimate cause of concern all on its own.

[Ronson]

My post contains what is the truth about Donald Trump. It only seems like hatred to you because for some reason you would prefer not to be confronted with the truth of what Trump has done and is doing.

What he's done was pursue a libertarian platform, of anti globalism and anti militarism.

E.g. you think that me calling Trump a con stems from 'hatred of Trump'. It doesn't. It's simply a fact, he's a con. You need look no further than Trump University and the legal judgements against him to validate that fact. But instead you prefer to think only a person that hates Trump would be deeply concerned about the fact he is a con, as if a person being a con and taking advantage of large numbers of people is nothing to be concerned about. But this is a con holding the highest office in the land and using the power of that office to deceive and mislead others into giving him their money and trust. Yet you act as if this could not possibly be a legitimate cause of concern all on its own.

Emotional diatribe.

[oxmixmudd]

What he's done was pursue a libertarian platform, of anti globalism and anti militarism.



Emotional diatribe.

Tell yourself lies if you want to. The reality is Trump has made you into a fool. And he will gladly keep you in that state for as long as you are willing to stay there.

[Ronson]

Tell yourself lies if you want to. The reality is Trump has made you into a fool. And he will gladly keep you in that state for as long as you are willing to stay there.

And the MSM has you completely brainwashed. You and Shuny are the worst ones here; no independent thought, just parroting.

[oxmixmudd]

And the MSM has you completely brainwashed. You and Shuny are the worst ones here; no independent thought, just parroting.

Sticks and stones luv.

Bottom line- Trump is a narcissist and a criminal. He takes from the poor and gives to the rich. He rewards loyalty rather than competence (cronyism) He pulls his own family into positions of power regardless of qualification (nepotosm). He uses the office of President to directly enrich himself and his businesses (emoluments). He is working tirelessly to sow distrust and discontent in our electoral system, undermining the core element of a peaceful and efficient transfer of power. He is everything the founding fathers worked very hard to discourage and prevent.

Not only this, he has directly infected people with the coronavirus through his re kless behavior and has created the current runaway crisis state in our dealings wirh it through his rallies and encouragement of misinformation about it.

And you are on Trump's side.

You have set yourself against the guiding principles on which this country was founded and embraced in Trump nearly everything they fought and died to escape. You have sided with a man willing to let hundreds of thousands die and who has sowed distrust and hatred in millions. A man intent on revenge and destruction as he leaves the white house.

An 'anti-Christ' if there ever was one in that everything Christ taught about humility, tighteousness, and mercy he despises, and everything Christ rebuked about pride, revenge, and hatred, he embraces.

[shunyadragon]

Depends on how the court cases shake out. Trump's legal is claiming that they can prove he won in a landslide and that the only reason he "lost" is because of China Joe's, and I'm quoting Joe here, "most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics".

The Trumpian circus continues complete with elephants, clown, and freak side shows of the 'bizarre.'

Source: https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/wisconsin-supreme-court-rejects-move-to-nullify-election-federal-judge-calls-idea-bizarre/article_f5930551-9704-524b-b57e-cb34d9e47b01.html

Wisconsin Supreme Court rejects move to nullify election; federal judge calls idea 'bizarre'

In a pair of stinging rebukes, one from a conservative Wisconsin Supreme Court justice and the other from a federal judge President Donald Trump appointed, two courts Friday balked at efforts by Trump and his supporters to toss out the results of the presidential election in the state and have the Legislature decide the winner.

Joined by the state Supreme Court’s three liberal-backed justices, conservative-backed Justice Brian Hagedorn called a request to have the court invalidate the November election “unprecedented in American history” and “the most dramatic invocation of judicial power I have ever seen.”

The court rejected the request 4-3.

“Judicial acquiescence to such entreaties built on so flimsy a foundation would do indelible damage to every future election,” Hagedorn wrote for the majority. “Once the door is opened to judicial invalidation of presidential election results, it will be awfully hard to close that door again. This is a dangerous path we are being asked to tread. The loss of public trust in our constitutional order resulting from the exercise of this kind of judicial power would be incalculable.”

The other three conservative-backed justices dissented, arguing the court should “address the people of Wisconsin’s concerns about whether the (Wisconsin Elections Commission’s) conduct during the 2020 presidential election violated Wisconsin statutes.”


In the federal case, a judge hearing a separate lawsuit seeking to overturn Democratic President-elect Joe Biden’s win in Wisconsin said Trump’s request to “remand” the case to the GOP-controlled Legislature to pick new electors was “bizarre.”

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[Ronson]

Sticks and stones luv.

I'm only following your lead. I notice you often start with the insults ("fool") and then act surprised when it is returned.

Bottom line- Trump is a narcissist and a criminal. He takes from the poor and gives to the rich. He rewards loyalty rather than competence (cronyism) He pulls his own family into positions of power regardless of qualification (nepotosm). He uses the office of President to directly enrich himself and his businesses (emoluments). He is working tirelessly to sow distrust and discontent in our electoral system, undermining the core element of a peaceful and efficient transfer of power. He is everything the founding fathers worked very hard to discourage and prevent.

Not only this, he has directly infected people with the coronavirus through his re kless behavior and has created the current runaway crisis state in our dealings wirh it through his rallies and encouragement of misinformation about it.

And you are on Trump's side.

OK. Biden is career politician who hasn't done anything of note except push a crime bill that he now disavows. He has buddied up with bigots and denies it. His son is a drug-addled influence peddler (Joe's influence) and it appears Joe gets a kickback from it, but all his support network will never investigate him regarding it. He's a globalist. He's owned by military complex and I expect new Obama-type incursions during his reign - and that assumes he will stay coherent long enough to do real damage. He is kowtowing to extreme elements, supported by violent socialist radicals, says he's going to raise taxes, and embraces a New Green Deal that is not only wrongheaded but is economically unsustainable.

And you are on Biden's side.

You have set yourself against the guiding principles on which this country was founded and embraced in Trump nearly everything they fought and died to escape. You have sided with a man willing to let hundreds of thousands die and who has sowed distrust and hatred in millions. A man intent on revenge and destruction as he leaves the white house.

What exactly did he do that let hundreds of thousands die?

An 'anti-Christ' if there ever was one in that everything Christ taught about humility, tighteousness, and mercy he despises, and everything Christ rebuked about pride, revenge, and hatred, he embraces.

That last part doesn't work on me. I am a heretic.

[oxmixmudd]

I'm only following your lead. I notice you often start with the insults ("fool") and then act surprised when it is returned.



OK. Biden is career politician who hasn't done anything of note except push a crime bill that he now disavows. He has buddied up with bigots and denies it. His son is a drug-addled influence peddler (Joe's influence) and it appears Joe gets a kickback from it, but all his support network will never investigate him regarding it. He's a globalist. He's owned by military complex and I expect new Obama-type incursions during his reign - and that assumes he will stay coherent long enough to do real damage. He is kowtowing to extreme elements, supported by violent socialist radicals, says he's going to raise taxes, and embraces a New Green Deal that is not only wrongheaded but is economically unsustainable.

And you are on Biden's side.

Even if true, no comparison. From a raw evil perspective Biden is a saint wrt Trump. From a national perspective Biden is a patriot, and Trump is a traitor and agent for our enemies.

Trump has done more to undermine and destroy the fundamental strengths of our nation in the 4 weeks since the election than any other president did in his entire presidency.

What exactly did he do that let hundreds of thousands die?

Fought against the most important bit of medical advice there is - wear a mask. He flaunted his defiance of it and encouraged others to do the same. He stood in the way of testing and contact tracing. He brought a complete idiot in to lead the task force. He refused to allow the cdc and fauci to speak and act based on sound science rather than political expediency. He held public, outdoor and indoor rallies were the virus could spread and where his mask defiance could be embraced by the attendees. He stood in the way of democratic and republican local officials trying to act in concert with the best medical science.

That last part doesn't work on me. I am a heretic.

Not my words, but I'm not sure you quite comprehend the real gravity of that 'confession'. This isnt a game.

[Ronson]

Even if true, no comparison. From a raw evil perspective Biden is a saint wrt Trump. From a national perspective Biden is a patriot, and Trump is a traitor and agent for our enemies.

"Even if true"? Part of my statement was that Biden gets a kickback from selling influence. That's a traitor.

Trump has done more to undermine and destroy the fundamental strengths of our nation in the 4 weeks since the election than any other president did in his entire presidency.

Nope. His legal team has exposed some irregularities that the establishment is brushing aside and won't even consider. The same as in 2018 when Republicans were accused of the same thing. No one cared then either. So the "fundamental strengths" have been undermined for a while.

fraud.jpg

Fought against the most important bit of medical advice there is - wear a mask. He flaunted his defiance of it and encouraged others to do the same. He stood in the way of testing and contact tracing. He brought a complete idiot in to lead the task force. He refused to allow the cdc and fauci to speak and act based on sound science rather than political expediency. He held public, outdoor and indoor rallies were the virus could spread and where his mask defiance could be embraced by the attendees. He stood in the way of democratic and republican local officials trying to act in concert with the best medical science.

Even if that were all true, can you name one person who died as a result?

[oxmixmudd]

"Even if true"? Part of my statement was that Biden gets a kickback from selling influence. That's a traitor.

if true it might rise to that in some small sense. But you would claim Trump hiring unqualified synchofants to fill vacancies he created in the national security infrastructure so as to hamper transfer of power and make the US weak and vulnerable to its enemies is NOT being a traitor? What trump is doing is so much worse than ANYONE before him. Nixon, crook though he was, at least resigned for the good of the country. You have no clue at all.

Nope. His legal team has exposed some irregularities that the establishment is brushing aside and won't even consider. The same as in 2018 when Republicans were accused of the same thing. No one cared then either. So the "fundamental strengths" have been undermined

'Trumps legal team' - you mean the ambulance chasers laughed out of every courtroom they have been in so far? You mean melting hair Giuliani. You mean tin foil hat

Even if that were all true, can you name one person who died as a result?

damn right i can you little jerk. And besides them, Over 260,000 dead an and overwhelmed medical system and exhausted doctors and nurses. What fools you are!

[Ronson]

damn right i can you little jerk.

Buzz off. You're done.

[shunyadragon]

"Even if true"? Part of my statement was that Biden gets a kickback from selling influence. That's a traitor.



Nope. His legal team has exposed some irregularities that the establishment is brushing aside and won't even consider. The same as in 2018 when Republicans were accused of the same thing. No one cared then either. So the "fundamental strengths" have been undermined for a while.

fraud.jpg



Even if that were all true, can you name one person who died as a result?

The Trumpian circus goes on with the Orange haired clown, purple elephants, freak shows in the courts called bizarre by the judges, and Republican lawyers fat invoices.

[oxmixmudd]

Buzz off. You're done.

My last reply then is this. I have indeed had friends to die of this disease. And your lack of any sort of respect for that possibility deserved the response you got. And if you were half the man you think you are, you'd apologize for your carelessness.

See ya.

[Ronson]

My last reply then is this. I have indeed had friends to die of this disease. And your lack of any sort of respect for that possibility deserved the response you got. And if you were half the man you think you are, you'd apologize for your carelessness.

See ya.

Fat chance.

I asked you to name one person who died as a result of Trump. You didn't connect anyone, but instead started hurling epithets. Fine, everyone is a victim of Trump - they all got sick because of him directly. You're too emotional to deal with.

See ya