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  • Biden's Stasi Coming For Your Guns....

    Biden deputy chief of staff touted 'mandatory buybacks' of assault weapons

    Jen O’Malley Dillon previously served as Biden’s campaign manager – but before that, she’d worked for Beto O’Rourke

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...ns-gun-control
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

  • #2
    They want to take our money and then use it to "buy" our guns. I imagine that might have trouble in the SCOTUS -- at least until Biden packs it.

    I'm always still in trouble again

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    • #3
      Ah Americans and their damn guns.
      "Obama is not a brown-skinned, anti-war socialist who gives away free healthcare. You are thinking of Jesus." Episcopal Bishop of Arizona

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      • #4
        Originally posted by kiwimac View Post
        Ah Americans and their damn guns.
        It's almost like we consider it a founding principle of our country...
        That's what
        - She

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        - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

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        • #5
          Any such attempt would fail. People would just hide the guns until someone with any sense in government would uphold the 2nd amendment. Any such mandatory buyback would be unconstitutional.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
            Any such attempt would fail. People would just hide the guns until someone with any sense in government would uphold the 2nd amendment. Any such mandatory buyback would be unconstitutional.
            It's going to be awfully hard to hide your gun when it has to be registered (at least in my state). I think it might be like the police enforcing Thanksgiving gathering restrictions in your own home. Around here they're saying it would cause too much conflict and getting a warrant to enter a home would take too long. If something is passed, it would be a mess.

            I do agree that mandatory buybacks are going to be found unconstitutional.
            "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

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            • #7
              Originally posted by kiwimac View Post
              Ah Americans and their damn guns.
              Yes. It's a strange mix of being laughable and a tragedy at the same time. Mainly a tragedy, unfortunately.
              "Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post

                It's going to be awfully hard to hide your gun when it has to be registered (at least in my state). I think it might be like the police enforcing Thanksgiving gathering restrictions in your own home. Around here they're saying it would cause too much conflict and getting a warrant to enter a home would take too long. If something is passed, it would be a mess.

                I do agree that mandatory buybacks are going to be found unconstitutional.
                As far as I know you don't actually register your guns. You might have to have a license to carry it, and you need to do a background check to buy it, but there is no database of what guns a person owns. and you could always just say you sold it privately.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                  As far as I know you don't actually register your guns. You might have to have a license to carry it, and you need to do a background check to buy it, but there is no database of what guns a person owns. and you could always just say you sold it privately.
                  Or back in the 80s reported them as stolen

                  Not that I know anybody who ever did such a thing.

                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                    As far as I know you don't actually register your guns. You might have to have a license to carry it, and you need to do a background check to buy it, but there is no database of what guns a person owns. and you could always just say you sold it privately.
                    I looked it up. In NY, you have to register handguns and guns classified as assault weapons, but not long guns or antique guns.
                    "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

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                    • #11
                      Perhaps they could just brainwash us to give our guns up.

                      National Democratic Party official suggests re-education for Trump supporters: 'How do you deprogram 75 million people?'

                      https://www.theblaze.com/news/nation...ump-supporters
                      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

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                      • #12
                        Guns sold to the public should be limited:
                        maximum lethal range about 5m
                        all weapons to be single action
                        maximum load 4 rounds
                        small maximum calibre .18 or thereby
                        owners to pass psychological safety tests
                        all guns to carry licence plates
                        all owners to carry licence
                        licences only issued after safety test
                        severe punishment for anyone carrying an unlicensed firearm, min 5 years.
                        anyone supplying an illegal weapon to be jailed for 20 years.
                        “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                        “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by seer View Post
                          Perhaps they could just brainwash us to give our guns up.

                          National Democratic Party official suggests re-education for Trump supporters: 'How do you deprogram 75 million people?'

                          https://www.theblaze.com/news/nation...ump-supporters
                          They really seem enamored with the idea of re-education camps, gulags and enemies lists.

                          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          First we had the Bernie bros inside Sander's campaign waxing poetic over the beauty of gulags and the need for reeducating the people if the left took control. (See also Sanders camp mum on pro-gulag staffer, says Iowans 'don't care about political gossip'). Now it is AOC and dreams of creating an "archive" of all the names of Trump supporters so they could be held accountable "for their behavior."

                          And Sunny Hostin, Senior Legal Correspondent and Analyst for ABC News and co-host of the View, which the New York Times called the "most important political talk show in America," supported AOC's idea of making an enemies list of "Trump sycophants" to be punished in their future endeavors. Hostin declared on the View that

                          People like Kirstjen Nielsen, people like Stephen Miller, people like Kellyanne Conway, people like Vice president Mike Pence who was woefully inadequate of his role as the head of the coronavirus task force and people like Ben Carson and Betsy Devos, I don't think those people should be able to profit from their experience within the Trump administration. I don't think they should be forgotten. I don’t think we should look the other way. I think we need to remember because if you don't remember things then past becomes prologue. I do think people need to be held accountable for their actions and I don't think it's reminiscent of McCarthyism at all.


                          Are you or have you ever been a Trump supporter?


                          I should add that Democrats are already taking up AOC’s recommendation and the list that a group run by former staffers for Obama (one of whom is apparently on Biden's transition team) and presidential candidate "Mayor Pete" Buttigieg aren't just targeting upper officials in the Administration but all staffers, appointees and even supporters and donors as well.

                          As an article in the Federalist noted

                          Tacked onto AOC’s inflammatory tweet was a now-deleted reply from a former Obama campaign staffer dealing in analytics, Michael Simon, advertising the "Trump Accountability Project."

                          "Yes we are," he wrote, replying to AOC’s request for a roundup of Trump "sycophants" and linking to the project’s website. "Every Administration staffer, campaign staffer, bundler, lawyer who represented them- everyone."






                          This self-declared "Trump Accountability Project's" extensive enemies list of people they compiled and were already tracking was publicly available until they made it private (probably due in part to complaints about having something like 57 judges on the list).

                          Again from the Federalist article:

                          The list of names was initially published on the project’s website asking people to “remember what they did,” and is now privatized, but captured by internet archives. It shows an extensive Google Sheets document listing off people who the project deems necessary to curb from “profiting from their experience” working with the Trump Administration.

                          Tabs on the document separate those listed into categories such as "Campaign Staff," "Administration," "Appointees," "Donors," "Law Firms," "Endorsers," and "Denouncers." The "Administration" tab contained names of senior advisors in the White House all the way down to the "Chief Calligrapher."


                          For those of us who have seen screen saves and the like it is loaded with threatening language about holding people who ever "took a paycheck" from Trump accountable for doing so.

                          Washington Post columnist, Jennifer Rubin, who also talks of lists, explains what is meant for those who don't grasp it. She's calling for making sure that Trump supporters not be allowed to work or be accepted into "polite society." That Trump supporters should never be allowed to have an important job, platform or position of power ever again.





                          For those of you on the far left who still don't understand, feminist author and columnist for Medium, Jessica Valenti explains what it in terms you'll likely understand:

                          If you give anyone in this administration a job, f-bomb you. If you put them on a panel, f-bomb you. If you in any way give them the benefit of the doubt or a platform to power, f-bomb you.


                          As for AOC herself, she's doubled down, scoffing at the concerns she has raised, sneering in response, "Lol at the 'party of personal responsibility' being upset at the idea of being responsible for their behavior over [the] last four years."

                          And she and her ilk are making sure they pay for what they've done whether it was being nominated to a federal court or merely being the calligrapher at the White House.

                          And as SeanD reminded me, I forgot to include Clinton's Secretary Robert Reich's call for a "Truth and Reconciliation Commission" which is also exactly what MSNBC host Chris Hayes has demanded.

                          I'm always still in trouble again

                          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                            Guns sold to the public should be limited:
                            maximum lethal range about 5m
                            all weapons to be single action
                            maximum load 4 rounds
                            small maximum calibre .18 or thereby
                            owners to pass psychological safety tests
                            all guns to carry licence plates
                            all owners to carry licence
                            licences only issued after safety test
                            severe punishment for anyone carrying an unlicensed firearm, min 5 years.
                            anyone supplying an illegal weapon to be jailed for 20 years.
                            What about hunters? I don't think they could handle the 5m lethal range.

                            Where I work there are a number of people who hunt deer and other animals in season to supplement their food. It's from this, I learned that gun control really isn't a Democrat-Republican issue as much as it is an Urban-Rural issue.
                            "For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6

                            "Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                              Guns sold to the public should be limited:
                              maximum lethal range about 5m
                              all weapons to be single action
                              maximum load 4 rounds
                              small maximum calibre .18 or thereby
                              owners to pass psychological safety tests
                              all guns to carry licence plates
                              all owners to carry licence
                              licences only issued after safety test
                              severe punishment for anyone carrying an unlicensed firearm, min 5 years.
                              anyone supplying an illegal weapon to be jailed for 20 years.
                              Weapons are already illegal to convicted criminals, yet that doesn't stop criminals from brandishing them and killing folks. How will you make criminals adhere to your protocols?
                              "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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