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    The SCOTUS should rule there be new elections in each of the contested states. This time with ACTUAL election monitoring (I'd even trust the UN to sit in) and verifiable processes. If properly mobilized this should be possible before January.

    Objections?

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    Turley has said that might be the only viable solution if SCOTUS determines that that widely-used software is unreliable. But he also opined that it is extremely unlikely that any court would really be willing to do something that drastic.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
      Turley has said that might be the only viable solution if SCOTUS determines that that widely-used software is unreliable. But he also opined that it is extremely unlikely that any court would really be willing to do something that drastic.
      Trump should be able to take it directly to the SCOTUS without a lower court ruling. It would also need to be requested (as I do not believe the SCOTUS can advise on a course of action).

      I really don't know why there should be any objections. It would settle the matter once and for all - and there should be no question marks going forward.

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      • #4
        All this garbage is just the death rattle of the Republican Party. Good bye and good riddance.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
          All this garbage is just the death rattle of the Republican Party. Good bye and good riddance.
          You know, in 2008 people predicted it was the end of republicans.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
            All this garbage is just the death rattle of the Republican Party. Good bye and good riddance.
            not exactly good riddance. There needs to be at least one other party, but the Republican party has woulded itself fairly severely, at least wrt the presidential race.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Ronson View Post
              The SCOTUS should rule there be new elections in each of the contested states. This time with ACTUAL election monitoring (I'd even trust the UN to sit in) and verifiable processes. If properly mobilized this should be possible before January.

              Objections?
              I think any state's vote that is so screwed up that they can't be certified need to be struck down entirely and the legislatures choose the electors.
              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
              Than a fool in the eyes of God


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              • #8
                Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                The SCOTUS should rule there be new elections in each of the contested states. This time with ACTUAL election monitoring (I'd even trust the UN to sit in) and verifiable processes. If properly mobilized this should be possible before January.

                Objections?
                This came up repeatedly after Trump won in 2016. There is no constitutional mechanism to force new elections.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                  All this garbage is just the death rattle of the Republican Party. Good bye and good riddance.
                  How silly. Even assuming the all of the voting numbers are legitimate, Trump won 47.7% of the popular vote. Hardly a "death rattle."

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by LiconaFan97 View Post

                    This came up repeatedly after Trump won in 2016. There is no constitutional mechanism to force new elections.
                    It has to be presented to the SCOTUS. Special elections are arranged all the time, all over the world. It certainly can be done here. There is nothing unconstitutional about it.

                    The only legitimate objection I can fathom is that some people won't want to vote again; to vote twice for the same thing. That will affect the numbers.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                      How silly. Even assuming the all of the voting numbers are legitimate, Trump won 47.7% of the popular vote. Hardly a "death rattle."
                      But he built his following by lying to them. He will be found out eventually.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                        It has to be presented to the SCOTUS. Special elections are arranged all the time, all over the world. It certainly can be done here. There is nothing unconstitutional about it.

                        The only legitimate objection I can fathom is that some people won't want to vote again; to vote twice for the same thing. That will affect the numbers.
                        There is no mechanism in the constitution to force this. Why didn't the Democrats try to get new elections in Florida in 2000 or anywhere in 2016?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                          It has to be presented to the SCOTUS. Special elections are arranged all the time, all over the world. It certainly can be done here. There is nothing unconstitutional about it.

                          The only legitimate objection I can fathom is that some people won't want to vote again; to vote twice for the same thing. That will affect the numbers.
                          It would certainly change the dynamics of the vote, which I'm not particularly in favor of and why I would like to see it determined by the more sober headed legislatures. This would prevent a big marketing push from each campaign in an attempt to swing the election in their favor.
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                          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                          Than a fool in the eyes of God


                          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by LiconaFan97 View Post

                            There is no mechanism in the constitution to force this. Why didn't the Democrats try to get new elections in Florida in 2000 or anywhere in 2016?
                            The courts have the constitutional power to order relief (i.e. Torts).
                            Though, to be honest, there probably is a lack of standing since the actual election is held by electors, not the people.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                              The courts have the constitutional power to order relief (i.e. Torts).
                              Though, to be honest, there probably is a lack of standing since the actual election is held by electors, not the people.
                              Again, there is no constitutional mechanism to force this. It's just fantasyland.

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