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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View PostThen there was this:
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View PostBut while experts see a rise in vehicle attacks coming from right-wing extremists, police say the driver in Saturday's incident was a member of the so-called "Caravan for Justice," which organized the Black Lives Matter protest
Please try some logical reasoning based on statistics and overall data, not based on anecdotes and things happening once. Anything will happen once if the sample size is big enough, but that doesn't make for a trend, it makes for an outlier."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostSo people on the left doing once, what experts observe the right doing lots, causes equivalency in your mind? Or makes the left worse?
Please try some logical reasoning based on statistics and overall data, not based on anecdotes and things happening once. Anything will happen once if the sample size is big enough, but that doesn't make for a trend, it makes for an outlier.
Here are two more that I'm familiar with from just this year alone.
BLM Activist Who Drove Her Car Through Trump Supporters in Yorba Linda is Arrested and Charged with Attempted Murder
Suspect tells Jacksonville police that someone ‘had to take a stand’ after driving into GOP tent
I brought up the latter incident in another thread about the left's actual political violence
Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
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Finally stories about people wearing MAGA hats being physically assaulted have become so common that they don't even make the news these days[5]. Heck, even when a man tried to mow down six Trump supporters with his van while they were inside a Republican Party voter registration tent in Jacksonville, Florida this past February, it was ignored by the big three network news shows.
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The bottom right picture shows the perpetrator's
vehicle driving away from the scene of the crime
ETA: There was also the case of a registered Democrat, supporter of Bernie Sanders and abortion who posted anti-Trump screeds on her Facebook page, ramming a rented SUV through two security checkpoints at Mar-A-Lago back in February. The driver, Hannah Roemhild, was observed behaving erratically in front of an off duty Florida Highway Patrol officer at hotel prior to driving to Mar-A-Lago, was fired at by both Secret Service agents and Palm Beach County sheriff's deputies and was pursued by police vehicles to a motel in West Palm Beach, Florida, where she and her mother, who she picked up along the way during the chase, were arrested. Roemhild is facing aggravated assault on a law-enforcement officer charges.
That makes 4 incidents that I'm aware of in just this year alone. So when does it become a trend?Last edited by rogue06; 10-26-2020, 04:00 AM.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThat makes 4 incidents that I'm aware of in just this year alone. So when does it become a trend?
Given we have large dataset over multiple decades with regard to terrorist acts, hate incidents, etc, in order to say something was a trend, I would have to see it constituting some significant proportion of the data across multiple years.
For example this graph from CSIS shows a trend of left-wing terrorism rising and dropping off again in the early 2000s, and of religious terrorism appearing and staying present after 9/11:
Though that is a little misleading in that the fatalities differ between groups because the sorts of terrorism they were doing was quite different. "Most of these left-wing attacks targeted property associated with animal research, farming, or construction and were claimed by the Animal Liberation Front or the Earth Liberation Front." and thus typically had no fatalities, as property damage against crops or to free animals is quite different to blowing up occupied buildings or gunning down people. Total deaths from left-wing terrorism were over 10x lower over the period than total deaths from right-wing terrorism. The outlier of 9/11 means religious terrorism over the period was ~10x higher in fatalities than right-wing terrorism.
So left-wing terrorism only comes to ~1% of all fatalities in the period, basically a negligible rounding error. This is why the reports on terrorism from the FBI and other government agencies barely, if ever, even bother to mention left-wing terrorism at all, as it causes such a miniscule fraction of fatalities in the US."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostNumbers higher than a 3 year old count on his fingers would be a good start. Usually in science studies with n < 30 aren't interesting because the data doesn't have statistical significance.
I would be surprised if this idiocy came from anyone else but what would you expect from the guy who insists that the late communist dictator of the soviet Union, Joseph Stalin, is a right-winger.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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FWIU, and I could be wrong, CSIS relies heavily on MSM reports of violence in compiling statistics, and since the MSM largely ignores leftist violence (all four of those vehicle attacks come from local news sources or a conservative news outlet) or falsely tries to pin the blame on conservatives (the El Paso mass shooting and 2017 Portland train murders) it must therefore mean that leftist violence almost never happens.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostSo according to star 4 incidents in this year alone (and it isn't over) of loony leftists using vehicles to run down groups of conservatives/Trump supporters isn't enough, you need at least 30 incidents. That would average an attack less than every two weeks.
I would be surprised if this idiocy came from anyone else
the guy who insists that the late communist dictator of the soviet Union, Joseph Stalin, is a right-winger.Last edited by Starlight; 10-26-2020, 07:14 AM."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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