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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThere is no evidence that this person organized the protest. He apparently did support Antifa, So what? One person?
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View PostYeah, the guy that killed a Trump supporter in Portland, who declared himself, by his own words, "100 percent Antifa"... magically wasn't Antifa either, rite?
What's interesting about that guy was his uniqueness:
Antifa Protester Implicated in Killing of Trump Supporter in Oregon
For the first time, a self-identified member of the militant movement known as antifa has been implicated in a fatal shooting...
Unusual case of lethal violence
If Reinoehl is implicated in the case, it would mark the first time in recent years that an antifa supporter has been charged with homicide, said Brian Levin, director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University.
"Unlike the white supremacist and the far right, which glorifies mass violence by loners and small cells against minorities and enemies, hard-left violence has generally been less fatal and more directed towards property, racists and to a lesser extent police and journalists," Levin said.
Gary LaFree, chairman of the University of Maryland's criminology department, said the case could potentially be included in the university's Global Terrorism Database as the first act of terror linked to antifa.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
One of many. I understand, you don't want to accept that your pet organization are terrorists. But that's why Portland has been using catch and release on rioters. They don't want to be charging fellow antifa loons.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
There is no evidence that this person organized the protest. He apparently did support Antifa, So what? One person?
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
Yeah, the guy that killed a Trump supporter in Portland, who declared himself, by his own words, "100 percent Antifa"... magically wasn't Antifa either, rite?
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostNone of the police departments in any of the court filings, made even a single allegation that they had found a connection between the person they'd arrested and Antifa. Not even a single mention of even someone liking a pro-Antifa tweet.
Given Trump keeps telling his gullible flock that Antifa are behind all these protests, you'd expect that at least one of the 286 people arrested nationwide in the protests would have had some sort of discernable connection to Antifa. Or you would, if we didn't all know Trump is a serial liar.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostIf you deliberate ignore incidents of violence committed by the left you will definitely get results like that. I mean even you must realize those numbers are grossly skewed to achieve zero violent incidents by the left this past year.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostNone of the police departments in any of the court filings, made even a single allegation that they had found a connection between the person they'd arrested and Antifa. Not even a single mention of even someone liking a pro-Antifa tweet.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostI think there's a huge and important difference, both societally and emotionally, between:
a) A significant number of average, mainstream, people protesting over a social issue; and
b) There being an evil organization masterminding terrorism across the US in order to overturn the social order and bring about a Stalinist communist Marxist socialist dystopian state.
The first is an expression of free speech that's as American as apple pie. The second seems to be the stuff of clutched pearls, nightmares, and pooped diapers among the MAGA crowd. It's concerning that the MAGA crowd's sense of reality is so mis-calibrated that they mistake the first for the second.
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Postit just means most are just mainstream liberals. Not a better look
a) A significant number of average, mainstream, people protesting over a social issue; and
b) There being an evil organization masterminding terrorism across the US in order to overturn the social order and bring about a Stalinist communist Marxist socialist dystopian state.
The first is an expression of free speech that's as American as apple pie. The second seems to be the stuff of clutched pearls, nightmares, and pooped diapers among the MAGA crowd. It's concerning that the MAGA crowd's sense of reality is so mis-calibrated that they mistake the first for the second.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostI see the AP did a big analysis of all the arrests at the 2020 protests...
AP finds most arrested in protests aren’t leftist radicals
In 1000s of pages of court documents for the 286 people facing charges, AP found not one single claim that any defendant had a connection to Antifa.
Pretty amusing given Trump's lies to his gullible cultists about the big scary Antifa running these protests and coming to get everyone.
it just means most are just mainstream liberals. Not a better look
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
The statistics are so extreme right yes the proportion of extreme right terrorism is overwhelmingly dominant.
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Originally posted by seer View Postwhy would they admit that they were Antifa?
Given Trump keeps telling his gullible flock that Antifa are behind all these protests, you'd expect that at least one of the 286 people arrested nationwide in the protests would have had some sort of discernable connection to Antifa. Or you would, if we didn't all know Trump is a serial liar.
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