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  • #16
    I see the AP did a big analysis of all the arrests at the 2020 protests...

    AP finds most arrested in protests aren’t leftist radicals

    In 1000s of pages of court documents for the 286 people facing charges, AP found not one single claim that any defendant had a connection to Antifa.

    Pretty amusing given Trump's lies to his gullible cultists about the big scary Antifa running these protests and coming to get everyone.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      I see the AP did a big analysis of all the arrests at the 2020 protests...

      AP finds most arrested in protests aren’t leftist radicals

      In 1000s of pages of court documents for the 286 people facing charges, AP found not one single claim that any defendant had a connection to Antifa.

      Pretty amusing given Trump's lies to his gullible cultists about the big scary Antifa running these protests and coming to get everyone.
      Really? First, why would they admit that they were Antifa? Second, why would all, or even the majority, of leftist radicals be Antifa? Third, did these 286 people claim to be right wing? Talk about gullible...
      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

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      • #18
        Originally posted by seer View Post

        Really? First, why would they admit that they were Antifa? Second, why would all, or even the majority, of leftist radicals be Antifa? Third, did these 286 people claim to be right wing? Talk about gullible...
        They did not.
        Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
        Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
        But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

        go with the flow the river knows . . .

        Frank

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        • #19
          Originally posted by seer View Post
          why would they admit that they were Antifa?
          None of the police departments in any of the court filings, made even a single allegation that they had found a connection between the person they'd arrested and Antifa. Not even a single mention of even someone liking a pro-Antifa tweet.

          Given Trump keeps telling his gullible flock that Antifa are behind all these protests, you'd expect that at least one of the 286 people arrested nationwide in the protests would have had some sort of discernable connection to Antifa. Or you would, if we didn't all know Trump is a serial liar.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by seanD View Post

            They claim zero violence by leftwing groups in 2020. And you believe that?
            The friends and relatives of Aaron "Jay" Danielson would definitely contest that

            I'm always still in trouble again

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            • #21
              Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post

              The statistics are so extreme right yes the proportion of extreme right terrorism is overwhelmingly dominant.
              If you deliberate ignore incidents of violence committed by the left you will definitely get results like that. I mean even you must realize those numbers are grossly skewed to achieve zero violent incidents by the left this past year.

              I'm always still in trouble again

              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                I see the AP did a big analysis of all the arrests at the 2020 protests...

                AP finds most arrested in protests aren’t leftist radicals

                In 1000s of pages of court documents for the 286 people facing charges, AP found not one single claim that any defendant had a connection to Antifa.

                Pretty amusing given Trump's lies to his gullible cultists about the big scary Antifa running these protests and coming to get everyone.
                Read the article.
                it just means most are just mainstream liberals. Not a better look

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
                  it just means most are just mainstream liberals. Not a better look
                  I think there's a huge and important difference, both societally and emotionally, between:

                  a) A significant number of average, mainstream, people protesting over a social issue; and

                  b) There being an evil organization masterminding terrorism across the US in order to overturn the social order and bring about a Stalinist communist Marxist socialist dystopian state.

                  The first is an expression of free speech that's as American as apple pie. The second seems to be the stuff of clutched pearls, nightmares, and pooped diapers among the MAGA crowd. It's concerning that the MAGA crowd's sense of reality is so mis-calibrated that they mistake the first for the second.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                    I think there's a huge and important difference, both societally and emotionally, between:

                    a) A significant number of average, mainstream, people protesting over a social issue; and

                    b) There being an evil organization masterminding terrorism across the US in order to overturn the social order and bring about a Stalinist communist Marxist socialist dystopian state.

                    The first is an expression of free speech that's as American as apple pie. The second seems to be the stuff of clutched pearls, nightmares, and pooped diapers among the MAGA crowd. It's concerning that the MAGA crowd's sense of reality is so mis-calibrated that they mistake the first for the second.
                    Except, there's a problem with a significant number of mainstream liberals burning, looting, and attacking the police and others. Which is far worse than an evil organization being behind it. I'd rather think it's mainly extremists that are behind those committing violent acts rather than the run-of the mill democrat being behind it.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                      None of the police departments in any of the court filings, made even a single allegation that they had found a connection between the person they'd arrested and Antifa. Not even a single mention of even someone liking a pro-Antifa tweet.
                      So? That does mean they are not leftists.

                      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        If you deliberate ignore incidents of violence committed by the left you will definitely get results like that. I mean even you must realize those numbers are grossly skewed to achieve zero violent incidents by the left this past year.
                        The statistics are overwhelmingly that extreme right terrorism is dominating the violence. Your not responding to the facts. You simply have to follow the news of the incidents of extreme right terrorism.
                        Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                        Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                        But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                        go with the flow the river knows . . .

                        Frank

                        I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                          None of the police departments in any of the court filings, made even a single allegation that they had found a connection between the person they'd arrested and Antifa. Not even a single mention of even someone liking a pro-Antifa tweet.

                          Given Trump keeps telling his gullible flock that Antifa are behind all these protests, you'd expect that at least one of the 286 people arrested nationwide in the protests would have had some sort of discernable connection to Antifa. Or you would, if we didn't all know Trump is a serial liar.
                          Yeah, the guy that killed a Trump supporter in Portland, who declared himself, by his own words, "100 percent Antifa"... magically wasn't Antifa either, rite?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                            Yeah, the guy that killed a Trump supporter in Portland, who declared himself, by his own words, "100 percent Antifa"... magically wasn't Antifa either, rite?
                            There is no evidence that this person organized the protest. He apparently did support Antifa, So what? One person?
                            Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                            Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                            But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                            go with the flow the river knows . . .

                            Frank

                            I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post

                              There is no evidence that this person organized the protest. He apparently did support Antifa, So what? One person?
                              One of many. I understand, you don't want to accept that your pet organization are terrorists. But that's why Portland has been using catch and release on rioters. They don't want to be charging fellow antifa loons.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

                                One of many. I understand, you don't want to accept that your pet organization are terrorists. But that's why Portland has been using catch and release on rioters. They don't want to be charging fellow antifa loons.
                                I have no pet organization, nor do advocate any violence. I already have stated at least several times that violence has occurred by the extreme left, extreme right, and religious extremists. The reference I cited concerning the dominance of of terrorism and violence by extreme right. Your response and that of SeanD are bitter rhetoric without any references to support your assumptions.
                                Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                                Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                                But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                                go with the flow the river knows . . .

                                Frank

                                I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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