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  • #31
    Originally posted by Whateverman View Post
    Is it completely normal to openly masturbate in front a fertile female half-a-century younger?
    Are you referring to Toobin? I don't think such a thing happened, he was on a zoom call with collegues.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

      Actually, the question is did he think she was under-age, not did she know she was 24.
      Honestly, there's no way anybody would look at her figure and mistake her for someone who is underage.

      So the "joke" here is apparently that Giuliani was attracted to a hot 24-year old model. Ooh, how scandalous.
      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
      Than a fool in the eyes of God


      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Whateverman View Post
        Is it completely normal to openly masturbate in front a fertile female half-a-century younger?
        He wasn't openly masturbating, you dope.

        If you look at other frames from the video, you can see that she appears to unclip a lavalier microphone from his shirt, and then he lays back to tuck his shirt back in. Now if you're wondering why his shirt was untucked in the first place, it is a common practice to attach a lavalier microphone by running the wire up under the shirt so that it remains hidden. Trust me, I've shot countless interviews over the years where a gentleman has had to tuck his shirt back in after the audio engineer removed the microphone.
        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
        Than a fool in the eyes of God


        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Whateverman View Post
          Is it completely normal to openly masturbate in front a fertile female half-a-century younger?
          I haven't seen the video but I saw Giuliani's comments right after it happened. He said he was relieved he didn't do anything in that room that might have been compromising. That doesn't sound like someone who was masturbating.

          As far as her age, 24, so what? I'm 60 and I find women in their 20s attractive. Most models are in that age range.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

            Actually, the question is did he think she was under-age, not did she know she was 24.
            No the question stands. Did he know she was in fact twenty four years old?

            The character she is playing is supposed to be fifteen.
            "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" Attrib. Seneca 4 BCE - 65 CE

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
              Honestly, there's no way anybody would look at her figure and mistake her for someone who is underage.

              So the "joke" here is apparently that Giuliani was attracted to a hot 24-year old model. Ooh, how scandalous.
              She's an actress not a model


              "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" Attrib. Seneca 4 BCE - 65 CE

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                The more I think about it, this is such a non issue. The guy isn't married. And it is completely normal for a male to be attracted to a fertile female - regardless of his age. That's reproductive nature in action. It is the other variations that aren't normal.
                As we see from the antics of Roy Moore and instances such as that in Alabama where [apparently] a seventy four year old married a fourteen year old. The American Way and The American Dream. Just imagine if they were Muslims!
                "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" Attrib. Seneca 4 BCE - 65 CE

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Ronson View Post

                  I haven't seen the video but I saw Giuliani's comments right after it happened. He said he was relieved he didn't do anything in that room that might have been compromising. That doesn't sound like someone who was masturbating.
                  That sounds like someone giving a high-profile politician a pass on a potentially devastating sex scandal, for no other obvious reason than partisanship.

                  Why in the world would you believe what Giuliana says about it? At a minimum, a reasonable Republican/Libertarian would note that the images look damning, regardless of anything anyone is actually saying about the incident...

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                    No the question stands. Did he know she was in fact twenty four years old?

                    The character she is playing is supposed to be fifteen.
                    Well, she was playing a character who was playing a character. If there was no indication in their interactions that she was "underage" then you are saying that he was interested in an above-age girl, who was pretending to be underage, with no indication she was under-age...

                    Hence, nothing.

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                    • #40
                      On the innuendo, let's get real. At 76, you don't reach for your genitals until you've reached for the Viagra. You don't undo your pants from inside them. And you don't tuck in your shirt sitting down with your gut in the way. He laid down because it was easier than standing up.

                      But I don't care what your politics is, this is hilarious.
                      .
                      “This guy comes running in, wearing a crazy, what I would say was a pink transgender outfit,” Giuliani told the New York Post. “It was a pink bikini, with lace, underneath a translucent mesh top, it looked absurd. He had the beard, bare legs, and wasn’t what I would call distractingly attractive."

                      If anything, I'd say he was taking more interest in Borat.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Whateverman View Post
                        That sounds like someone giving a high-profile politician a pass on a potentially devastating sex scandal, for no other obvious reason than partisanship.

                        Why in the world would you believe what Giuliana says about it? At a minimum, a reasonable Republican/Libertarian would note that the images look damning, regardless of anything anyone is actually saying about the incident...
                        Well, you know we could handlie it like democrats in North Carolina where they will drag Cal Cunningham "Across the line" after the sex scandal he's involved in....

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                        • #42
                          I suspect you support and endorse the uncontrolled capitalism that exploits young girls and encourages them to dress in "skimpy clothing" and perform "sexually provocative dance routines".

                          Those capitalist outlets [media, fashion, music industry, and advertising] are part of the capitalist system where profit is all that matters.

                          I cannot recall reading any thread from any Christian condemning that economic system and its industries for their exploitation of young people in the name of profit. I might opine that you too have some "very strange moral standards."

                          Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                          As for the "she's young enough to be his grand-daughter" tut-tutting, so what? She's not actually his grand-daughter and is biologically and legally an adult.
                          I agree, but did he know her actual age?


                          "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" Attrib. Seneca 4 BCE - 65 CE

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Juvenal View Post
                            On the innuendo, let's get real. At 76, you don't reach for your genitals until you've reached for the Viagra. You don't undo your pants from inside them. And you don't tuck in your shirt sitting down with your gut in the way. He laid down because it was easier than standing up.

                            But I don't care what your politics is, this is hilarious.
                            .
                            “This guy comes running in, wearing a crazy, what I would say was a pink transgender outfit,” Giuliani told the New York Post. “It was a pink bikini, with lace, underneath a translucent mesh top, it looked absurd. He had the beard, bare legs, and wasn’t what I would call distractingly attractive."

                            If anything, I'd say he was taking more interest in Borat.
                            Perhaps he wanted to get dressed up again. Remember this?

                            cursedguilimagemain.png


                            "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" Attrib. Seneca 4 BCE - 65 CE

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                              I agree, but did he know her actual age?

                              Did he think she was under-age? It doesn't matter if he thought she was 18, 19, 20. Its if he thought she was under-age, then its criminal. Whether he thought she was her actual age of 24 is irrelevant if he thought she was legally an adult and able to consent.*

                              *again, assuming that he was trying to sleep with her.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Juvenal View Post
                                On the innuendo, let's get real. At 76, you don't reach for your genitals until you've reached for the Viagra. You don't undo your pants from inside them. And you don't tuck in your shirt sitting down with your gut in the way. He laid down because it was easier than standing up.

                                But I don't care what your politics is, this is hilarious.
                                .
                                “This guy comes running in, wearing a crazy, what I would say was a pink transgender outfit,” Giuliani told the New York Post. “It was a pink bikini, with lace, underneath a translucent mesh top, it looked absurd. He had the beard, bare legs, and wasn’t what I would call distractingly attractive."


                                If anything, I'd say he was taking more interest in Borat.
                                I think I could argue persuasively that this is what it looks like - but I wont. I take your points above, and the reality is that the only reason I care about this story is that it's funny. Even if Giuliani turns out to have been a pervert (and really, he married his frikkin cousin, so...), I just don't care that much; let him be a pervert legally. More important are the optics on this story; they're hilarious :)

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