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left-wing counter-protestors in San Francisco demonstrate their stance on free speech
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
Do you support the counter-protestors, who outnumbered and attacked the protestors?
As for this protests, I agree with what Twitter is doing. Fake News websites posting false information is not something they have to provide a platform for, nor do they have to support organized hate and mobbing campaigns like the ones I've seen the feminists get from conservatives. There's an argument to be had that they need to apply their principles equally, but what they're doing in at of itself seems better than the alternative.
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You've missed the point, Leon. The point is not whether what Twitter is doing is wrong or right (but in a land that prides itself on allowing free speech, it's very wrong), but that this group of peaceful protesters was attacked by a liberal crowd for standing up for free speech.
That is blatant hypocrisy and blatantly wrong, since they are likely some of the same who rioted and not-so-peacefully protested in the not-so-distant past and were allowed free rein to do so.
It is good that you are against violence, but it's sad that you missed the entire point of what happened.Last edited by mossrose; 10-18-2020, 10:12 AM.
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostYou've missed the point, Leon. The point is not whether what Twitter is doing is wrong or right (but in a land that prides itself on allowing free speech, it's very wrong), but that this group of peaceful protesters was attacked by a liberal crowd for standing up for free speech.
That is blatant hypocrisy and blatantly wrong, since they are likely some of the same who rioted and not-so-peacefully protested in the not-so-distant past no were allowed free rein to do so.
It is good that you are against violence, but it's sad that you missed the entire point of what happened.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
The people here aren't standing up for Free Speech mossrose.
For the record, assuming the reporting on this story isn't leaving out important details, I condemn violence on the part of the counter-protesters. I'd condemn demonstration/protest violence in almost any situation, regardless of who the instigators/victims are.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
The people here aren't standing up for Free Speech mossrose. I side with Twitter on this one. I side with counter-protesters for that matter.
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Originally posted by mossrose View Post
The protesters certainly were not standing up for free speech, Leon. The protesters were. Twitter is unfair and unbalanced, as is Facebook and the msm. They do not allow dissenting voices, just like the counter-protesters did not want to allow dissenting voices.
But it has nothing to do with dissenting views.
Take TWeb, we don't allow swear words, posts with explicit sexual content, you've banned one user a couple of times for supporting anti-abortion violence, and you've also banned other users for explicit sexism and racism.
If TWeb is allowed to have standards, why shouldn't Twitter?
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Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
I know some of the groups and places and accounts that Twitter and Facebook have taken down. I'll extend an olive branch and agree that they should apply these principles equally to toxic liberal accounts that harass people, organize doxxing and harassment campaigns, or bot-driven fake news circles. To same extent that liberals are doing those things, those things should be closed down.
But it has nothing to do with dissenting views.
Take TWeb, we don't allow swear words, posts with explicit sexual content, you've banned one user a couple of times for supporting anti-abortion violence, and you've also banned other users for explicit sexism and racism.
If TWeb is allowed to have standards, why shouldn't Twitter?
And we allow anyone 13 and older to register, so we want to keep the site as family friendly as we can. Although I think Thirsty is the only one of that age group to ever register, so perhaps that is moot.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
The people here aren't standing up for Free Speech mossrose. I side with Twitter on this one. I side with counter-protesters for that matter.
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostTweb allows a whole lot of dissenting views. If we didn't, there would be no atheists or leftists here. Disallowing a few words and sexual content is a far cry from not allowing this who disagree with us to speak at all.
And we allow anyone 13 and older to register, so we want to keep the site as family friendly as we can. Although I think Thirsty is the only one of that age group to ever register, so perhaps that is moot.
Yet that is not counted as closing down dissenting views. I support Twitter in doing the above. It's A-Okay in my book.
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Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
The counter protesyer position was that the protesters should not be allowed to protest. Hence the attack.
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