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  • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

    Which is to say that the investigation was active at the time Joe extorted the Ukrainian government into firing Shokin. (Unless you think a prosecutor can suddenly put together a raid without doing significant prior work.)
    The investigation was open, but dormant.

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    • Originally posted by Stoic View Post

      The investigation was open, but dormant.
      I've shown you the facts proving that it wasn't.
      Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
      But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
      Than a fool in the eyes of God


      From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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      • Originally posted by Sparko View Post
        The guy is the assistant director of the FBI Cyber division. He should know this. He should at least said, I can find out and get back to you. Even then all he would say was he would "take the request back to the office" which is avoidance speak for not finding out where it is and doing nothing. He couldn't even tell Gaetz who does know.

        I work at a law firm. I sometimes handle private and secure data on various cases. If my boss were called to testify before congress about some laptop we had at our firm, my boss would be able to tell him I was in possession of the laptop. Or at least he would be able to tell congress that he could easily find out and get back to them. One phone call to my department would be all that was required. Everything we have is tracked. I am assuming that since the FBI is working with actual evidence much more important than my firm does, they would have chain of custody forms and all that to keep track of where everything is.
        Sure, he probably could have been more voluntarily helpful. Maybe he was annoyed at Gaetz for asking questions unrelated to what he was there to testify about.

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        • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

          I've shown you the facts proving that it wasn't.
          I've shown you the facts proving that it was.

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          • Originally posted by Stoic View Post

            I've shown you the facts proving that it was.
            You've shown me spin. I've shown you where you can find sworn testimony and original documents.
            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
            Than a fool in the eyes of God


            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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            • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

              You've shown me spin. I've shown you where you can find sworn testimony and original documents.
              The only evidence that you've given that the investigation was not dormant is the self-serving testimony of a corrupt prosecutor, and the seizure of some of Zlochevsky's assets, which he didn't have access to anyway because he had fled the country. And the seizure of assets came almost two months after Biden threatened to withhold aid if Shokin wasn't fired.

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              • Originally posted by Stoic View Post

                The only evidence that you've given that the investigation was not dormant is the self-serving testimony of a corrupt prosecutor, and the seizure of some of Zlochevsky's assets, which he didn't have access to anyway because he had fled the country. And the seizure of assets came almost two months after Biden threatened to withhold aid if Shokin wasn't fired.
                You have shown on multiple occasions that you are impervious to facts and evidence that contradict your preferred narrative, so I'm not going waste any more of my time on this particular discussion.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                  You have shown on multiple occasions that you are impervious to facts and evidence that contradict your preferred narrative, so I'm not going waste any more of my time on this particular discussion.
                  Projection is strong in this one.

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                  • If the New York Times had been completely honest
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                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • Is anyone else hearing that they found Department of Defense encryption keys on Hunter's laptop?

                      I'm always still in trouble again

                      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                      • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        Is anyone else hearing that they found Department of Defense encryption keys on Hunter's laptop?
                        Nothing I've seen.

                        Though if the news popped up today....be wary, remember the date, it's fake news day.

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                        • Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                          Nothing I've seen.

                          Though if the news popped up today....be wary, remember the date, it's fake news day.
                          Every day is fake news day for the liberal media.
                          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                          Than a fool in the eyes of God


                          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                          • Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                            Nothing I've seen.

                            Though if the news popped up today....be wary, remember the date, it's fake news day.
                            This first popped up a couple of days ago

                            I'm always still in trouble again

                            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                            • (Warning! some images in the article might be a bit sexually explicit).

                              I think it's an important article though in spite of the graphic images that (understandably) might get it flagged here at tweb. Note that I posted the entire text of the article so folks can avoid clicking the link if they want to avoid the images...

                              Only reason I'm interested in this story is fact that Hunter apparently opened himself and his father up for potential extortion by foreign entities. Of course, this is what we heard from the TDS crowd for four years, only in the case of Hunter, not only was the dangerous situation he put himself in real (as opposed to the fake Russian "pee" story about Trump), but Hunter's reckless and lascivious behavior was far worse.


                              Joe Biden Covered Hunter's Russia-Linked Hooker Tab; Leaked Audio Proves Joe Spoke Of Dealings

                              President Joe Biden inadvertently paid son Hunter's tab to a Russia-linked escort ring, the Washington Examiner reports, citing records from the first son's infamous laptop.


                              After Hunter spent more than $30,000 on prostitutes between November 2018 and March 2019 - including several who use ".ru" email addresses linked to Russia, and an "exclusive model agency," UberGFE, Joe wired $5,000 while Hunter was "actively engaged" with an escort.
                              Hunter Biden disclosed in text messages with a woman named Eva, the go-between who served as his primary point of contact for UberGFE, that his accounts were temporarily frozen at one point because his attempted payments to her "girls" with Russian email accounts were too much of a "red flag" for his bank. Eva refers to him as Robert in the messages, which is his birth name. -Washington Examiner


                              Hunter also convinced Joe to send $20,000 more, claiming it was to pay for drug rehab in New York, but which never actually happened.

                              The Examiner notes that there's no suggestion that Joe knew what Hunter was spending the money on.

                              "What's wrong with you," Hunter asked the Examiner just after the above story was published.

                              According to a 2020 GOP Senate report, "Hunter Biden paid nonresident women who were nationals of Russia or other Eastern European countries," and that certain transactions were linked to what "appears to be an Eastern European prostitution or human trafficking ring."

                              The report says that Hunter "sent thousands of dollars" to individuals who were either involved in "transactions consistent with possible human trafficking" or "potential association with prostitution."

                              Some of Hunter's hookers "subsequently wired funds they have received from Hunter Biden to individuals located in Russia and Ukraine."

                              In one instance, a prostitute named Eva told Hunter that he owed a total of $9,500 for 16 hours of 'work' - telling him to wire the funds directly to a bank account linked to a woman with a Russian email address. Less than 90 minutes later, "Joseph R. Biden Jr." sent him $5,000 through Cash App, after which Joe Biden's former assistant texted Hunter to say that the amount was the maximum amount allowed because the "weekly limit is $7,500."
                              Many of the previously unreported records cited in this story, including Hunter Biden's communications with his father, were located in a password-protected iPhone XS backup found on a copy of his abandoned laptop. The iPhone was saved to Hunter Biden’s computer on Feb. 6, 2019. Konstantinos "Gus" Dimitrelos, a cyber forensics expert commissioned by the Washington Examiner, located the password to the iPhone backup during his examination of the hard drive.

                              In one instance, Joe Biden wired his son $5,000 less than three hours before he filmed a dispute with an escort over a $10,000 payment at a cottage in Boston, Massachusetts. -Washington Examiner


                              According to Hunter's search history, he was looking for "dc Russian escorts," and visited the UberGFE website to browse for hookers.

                              Hunter is currently under federal investigation for possible tax fraud linked to his overseas business dealings.

                              Speaking of which, the Daily Mail has leaked December 2018 audio of Joe Biden telling Hunter he wanted to talk to him after the New York Times dropped a story on Hunter's dealings with Chinese oil company CEFC.
                              The president has repeatedly denied personally and through his press secretary that he ever talked about Hunter's foreign business with his Hunter – despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

                              Now, in a voicemail left on Hunter's iPhone, the evidence has come from POTUS' own mouth.

                              Joe called Hunter on December 12, 2018 saying that he wanted to talk to him after reading a New York Times story about Hunter's dealings with the Chinese oil giant CEFC. -Daily Mail


                              Files on Hunter's laptop reveal that he leveraged his family name to strike a deal with CEFC for millions of dollars.

                              According to the Times story, CEFC chairman Ye Jianming was arrested in China, while his #2 Patrick Ho had been convicted in the US for bribing African officials in order to help Iran evade oil sanctions.

                              Ye met with Hunter in 2017 in a Miami hotel to discuss "a partnership to invest in American infrastructure and energy deals."

                              According to the leaked Audio, Joe says in a voicemail to Hunter; "Hey pal, it's Dad. It's 8:15 on Wednesday night. If you get a chance just give me a call. Nothing urgent. I just wanted to talk to you," adding "I thought the article released online, it's going to be printed tomorrow in the Times, was good. I think you're clear. And anyway if you get a chance give me a call, I love you."

                              And of course, none of this is apparently newsworthy according to the same networks that provided 24-7 coverage of the Trump children's nothingburger "gotchas."

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                              • There's also this recently released voicemail which shows that despite his claims to the contary, Joe was intimately aware of Hunter's business dealings with China:

                                Joe Biden called his son Hunter in late 2018 to discuss a New York Times article detailing the younger Biden’s dealings with a Chinese oil tycoon accused of economic crimes — telling him, “I think you’re clear,” according to a report Monday.

                                The voicemail, discovered on a cellphone backup contained on Hunter Biden’s infamous discarded laptop, would appear to contradict President Biden’s continued denial that he ever talked with his disgraced 52-year-old son about his overseas business transactions — and was aware they could be improper.

                                “Hey pal, it’s Dad,” Joe Biden said, the Daily Mail reported. “It’s 8:15 on Wednesday night. If you get a chance, just give me a call. Nothing urgent. I just wanted to talk to you.”

                                Biden then made his intentions clear.

                                “I thought the article released online, it’s going to be printed tomorrow in the Times, was good,” Biden continued. “I think you’re clear. And anyway if you get a chance, give me a call, I love you.”

                                During a campaign appearance in Iowa in September 2019, Joe Biden said, “I have never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings.” His former press secretary, Jen Psaki, and his chief of staff, Ron Klain, have both repeatedly echoed that sentiment.

                                The unearthed voice message renewed calls for a probe of the now-president’s handling and knowledge of his son’s overseas dealings.

                                https://nypost.com/2022/06/27/voicem...alings-report/

                                For years we heard about how dirty and compromised President Trump was, but despite a deep dive into his private and professional life, not a single piece of evidence was ever found. Now here we are with the Biden crime family, and it seems like we're tripping over evidence everywhere we turn without having to dig for it.

                                Edit: Ah, I see this was covered in seanD's post.
                                Last edited by Mountain Man; 06-30-2022, 09:03 AM.
                                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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