The Biden Burisma Connection...

[Whateverman]

I actually didn't know that until you brought it up and did some digging. Yup, he was apparently median income when he became VP and ended up with 15 mil in 8 years. Did you think that would help your argument? That makes it worse. That actually confirms the idea he used his VP status to profit.

This is something you give the current so-called president a pass for, so why should anyone believe that you think a politician who uses his "status to profit" is bad/corrupt?

If it's bad, then Trump is just as bad, if not worse.

ps. and no, the fact that Biden's wealth grew while he was in office doesn't confirm that "he used his VP status to profit". You merely assumed it because you wanted to.

[seanD]

This is something you give the current so-called president a pass for, so why should anyone believe that you think a politician who uses his "status to profit" is bad/corrupt?

If it's bad, then Trump is just as bad, if not worse.

ps. and no, the fact that Biden's wealth grew while he was in office doesn't confirm that "he used his VP status to profit". You merely assumed it because you wanted to.

If you can show me where Trump's net worth has dramatically increased when he got into political office, I'll call Trump a corrupt career politician. I'll even do it without emails. See, I'm not a phony like you guys. From what I understand, he's losing money as a result of his political position.

[LiconaFan97]

I actually didn't know that until you brought it up and did some digging. Yup, he was apparently median income when he became VP and ended up with 15 mil in 8 years. Did you think that would help your argument? That makes it worse. That actually confirms the idea he used his VP status to profit. When do you stop digging your hole?

I think you misread that figure. He made $15 in the last four years, more than half of that from an $8M book deal. His income did not exceed $400k during his years in public service (note that Jill Biden was also working during that time for a decent salary).

If there was anything shady in his tax returns over those four years it would have been found. Surely you agree the Republicans would spare no expense in trying to build up an oppo file on him.

So, now we've accounted for every year of his life since entering the senate. Is he still totally corrupt?

[LiconaFan97]

If you can show me where Trump's net worth has dramatically increased when he got into political office, I'll call Trump a corrupt career politician. I'll even do it without emails. See, I'm not a phony like you guys. From what I understand, he's losing money as a result of his political position.

Most of the past 20 years he paid no tax but in 2017 he paid $750. Proof that he's making more money than before!

Really though it will require a deep forensic accounting to get to the bottom of his finances I suspect. He's probably making less now than before simply because any significant real estate transactions would be heavily scrutinized. I have no actual idea.

[Mountain Man]

This story keeps getting bigger and bigger...

A whistleblower CEO and Biden insider, Tony Bobulinski, released a public statement on Wednesday evening backing up the reporting of the New York Post from last week and claiming that he personally witnessed Democrat presidential nominee former Vice President Joe Biden discussing business deals with his son, Hunter Biden.

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Bobulinski said in a press statement he released Wednesday night:

My name is Tony Bobulinski. The facts set forth below are true and accurate; they are not any form of domestic or foreign disinformation. Any suggestion to the contrary is false and offensive. I am the recipient of the email published seven days ago by the New York Post which showed a copy to Hunter Biden and Rob Walker. That email is genuine.

According to Bobulinski, the use of the term “the Big Guy” in one such email was a direct reference to Joe Biden himself.

In that email, originally published by the New York Post and subsequently by several other outlets, there was a discussion of “remuneration packages” for six people involved in a business deal with the now-bankrupt CEFC China Energy Co. Fox News described the email in a report citing an anonymous source confirming that the “Big Guy” was Joe Biden:

The email includes a note that “Hunter has some office expectations he will elaborate.” A proposed equity split references “20” for “H” and “10 held by H for the big guy?” with no further details.

Bobulinski’s statement would be the first on-record confirmation of this from a source in the Biden universe. Bobulinski said:

What I am outlining is fact. I know it is fact because I lived it. I am the CEO of Sinohawk Holdings which was a partnership between the Chinese operating through CEFC/Chairman Ye and the Biden family. I was brought into the company to be the CEO by James Gilliar and Hunter Biden. The reference to ‘the Big Guy’ in the much publicized May 13, 2017 email is in fact a reference to Joe Biden. The other ‘JB’ referenced in that email is Jim Biden, Joe’s brother.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...cussing-deals/

Bobulinski confirms that Hunter frequently discussed his business deals with Joe, referring to him as "the chairman" and seeking his approval for various ventures, which it seems that Joe, as vice president, personally profited from. Can you say "conflict of interest"?

Just one day after the FBI and Department of Justice confirmed the laptop left at a computer repair store belonged to Hunter Biden, Fox News confirmed that very laptop was part of an FBI probe into money laundering. It remains unclear whether or not the case is still ongoing and if Hunter Biden was part of the probe.

Fox News obtained documents – authenticated by multiple federal law enforcement officials and two government officials – showing FBI Special Agent Joshua Wilson signed off on the "Receipt for Property" form that was filled out for the laptop. The document was signed on Dec. 9, 2019.

The report explained what the FBI coding means:

The document has a “Case ID” section, which is filled in with a hand-written number: 272D-BA-3065729.

According to multiple officials, and the FBI’s website, “272” is the bureau’s classification for money laundering, while “272D” refers to “Money Laundering, Unknown SUA [Specified Unlawful Activity]—White Collar Crime Program,” according to FBI documents. One government official described “272D” as “transnational or blanket.”

“BA” indicates the case was opened in the FBI’s Baltimore field office, sources said.

A government official told Fox that there had to be evidence of a crime or criminal conduct for the FBI to open the case.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethba...probe-n2578561

[Mountain Man]

I'm offering a "fanatical defense" against this story because it's by pointing out the problems with the story and seeing if there are answers to those problems...

Which is to say you're desperately running from one conspiracy theory to the next.

Meanwhile, this story just keeps on trucking despite "true believers" like you trying to convince themselves that it just has to be false.

[Maranatha]

Most of the past 20 years he paid no tax but in 2017 he paid $750. Proof that he's making more money than before!

Really though it will require a deep forensic accounting to get to the bottom of his finances I suspect. He's probably making less now than before simply because any significant real estate transactions would be heavily scrutinized. I have no actual idea.

Let me help. The best forensic accountants, the IRS, have not found the evidence you desperately hope is there. Since they actually have his returns. Proof that wishes don't always meet reality.

[Ronson]

All news organizations make editorial decisions. If you don't like how the MSM is reporting things then get your news from fringe news organizations. All tech companies make decisions on what content they want to allow. If you don't like how Twitter is handling things then move on to Parler. If you don't like Facebook is handling things then go to VK. You believe in the free market, don't you?

I don't use those sources for news. My point is that people who do use them are being filtered. They don't know news is being filtered, so they are are low-information voters. And you apparently like that. The less information a voter has the worse their decision will be.

[LiconaFan97]

Which is to say you're desperately running from one conspiracy theory to the next.

Meanwhile, this story just keeps on trucking despite "true believers" like you trying to convince themselves that it just has to be false.

I'm still waiting for you to point me to the article which lays out the laws Joe Biden broke.

Oh, and if the investigation is into money laundering and not kiddie porn then I guess Rudy lied about the contents of the laptop? Weird.

[LiconaFan97]

I don't use those sources for news. My point is that people who do use them are being filtered. They don't know news is being filtered, so they are are low-information voters. And you apparently like that. The less information a voter has the worse their decision will be.

Harmonize the conflicting accounts of the number of laptops dropped off, the number of laptops repaired, and how many times HB visited the shop. Can't be done. And that's why the laptop story, as currently reported, is not considered credible.

Joe Biden can confess to being the biggest scoundrel on the planet and every single email validated down to the molecule and that story, as currently reported, would still not be credible.

[CivilDiscourse]

Harmonize the conflicting accounts of the number of laptops dropped off, the number of laptops repaired, and how many times HB visited the shop. Can't be done. And that's why the laptop story, as currently reported, is not considered credible.

Joe Biden can confess to being the biggest scoundrel on the planet and every single email validated down to the molecule and that story, as currently reported, would still not be credible.

Question, is the Times report on trump's tax returns credible? What standard are you using?

[LiconaFan97]

Let me help. The best forensic accountants, the IRS, have not found the evidence you desperately hope is there. Since they actually have his returns. Proof that wishes don't always meet reality.

I was more referring to combining his returns with the Mazars documents + others.

Why so combative?

[LiconaFan97]

Question, is the Times report on trump's tax returns credible? What standard are you using?

Yes. Trump vindicated it both by calling it an illegal leak, which could only be true if the reporting was accurate, and by failing to disprove the story by releasing just one page from either his 2016 or 2017 returns which showed him paying an amount other than $750 in either of those years.

[LiconaFan97]

Which is to say you're desperately running from one conspiracy theory to the next.

Meanwhile, this story just keeps on trucking despite "true believers" like you trying to convince themselves that it just has to be false.

It is not a conspiracy theory to point out that Rudy's claims about the number of laptops dropped off, number repaired, number of visits by HB, and apparently presence of kiddie porn need to be explained.

[CivilDiscourse]

Yes. Trump vindicated it both by calling it an illegal leak, which could only be true if the reporting was accurate, and by failing to disprove the story by releasing just one page from either his 2016 or 2017 returns which showed him paying an amount other than $750 in either of those years.

So, even though the times produced no actual pages, no audit trail, hid its sources, etc. You believe it.

Interesting standard(s) you have there.