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    NYT: Experts Confident Pandemic To Be Over ‘Far Sooner’ Than Expected, Trump Efforts ‘Working With Remarkable Efficiency’

    A new report from The New York Times indicates that experts have “genuine confidence” that the coronavirus pandemic will end “far sooner” than originally expected and that President Donald Trump’s Operation Warp Speed — the administration’s efforts to facilitate and accelerate the development, manufacturing, and distribution of vaccines, therapeutics, and diagnostics — has been “working with remarkable efficiency.”

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/nyt-e...ble-efficiency

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/12/h...-optimism.html
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    Originally posted by seer View Post
    NYT: Experts Confident Pandemic To Be Over ‘Far Sooner’ Than Expected, Trump Efforts ‘Working With Remarkable Efficiency’

    A new report from The New York Times indicates that experts have “genuine confidence” that the coronavirus pandemic will end “far sooner” than originally expected and that President Donald Trump’s Operation Warp Speed — the administration’s efforts to facilitate and accelerate the development, manufacturing, and distribution of vaccines, therapeutics, and diagnostics — has been “working with remarkable efficiency.”

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/nyt-e...ble-efficiency

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/12/h...-optimism.html
    From the NYTimes article:

    The guidelines, “15 Days to Slow the Spread,” were accompanied by a grim chart. Based on a prominent model by London’s Imperial College, the chart illustrated with a sinuous blue line how many Americans might die if nothing were done to protect the public’s health.

    The line rose sharply as the estimated deaths went up, then drifted slowly down until finally, at the far right end of the graph, the number of new cases reached zero. Our national nightmare would end by October 2020 — that is, right about now.
    Oops!

    ps. unless "crushing" something includes being 100% wrong about it...
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Whateverman View Post

      From the NYTimes article:


      Oops!

      ps. unless "crushing" something includes being 100% wrong about it...
      No oops here...

      Events have moved faster than I thought possible. I have become cautiously optimistic. Experts are saying, with genuine confidence, that the pandemic in the United States will be over far sooner than they expected, possibly by the middle of next year.

      Despite the chaos in day-to-day politics and the fighting over issues like masks and lockdowns, Operation Warp Speed — the government’s agreement to subsidize vaccine companies’ clinical trials and manufacturing costs — appears to have been working with remarkable efficiency. It has put more than $11 billion into seven vaccine candidates, and the F.D.A. has said it will approve any one that is at least 50 percent effective at preventing infection or reducing its severity.

      Moncef Slaoui, Operation Warp Speed’s chief scientific adviser and a former pharmaceutical executive who has overseen the development of 14 vaccines, has said repeatedly that he expects some of the candidates that he picked to have 75 to 90 percent efficacy and at least two to win approval by early January
      .
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      • #4
        Originally posted by seer View Post
        ]Experts are saying, with genuine confidence, that the pandemic in the United States will be over far sooner than they expected, possibly by the middle of next year
        Why is the middle of next year sooner than expected? When the pandemic started I had a look at other pandemics over the last hundred years or two, and they generally lasted one year, occasionally two years. So if this one lasts ~1.5 years, that will be slightly longer than average.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by seer View Post
          NYT: Experts Confident Pandemic To Be Over ‘Far Sooner’ Than Expected, Trump Efforts ‘Working With Remarkable Efficiency’

          A new report from The New York Times indicates that experts have “genuine confidence” that the coronavirus pandemic will end “far sooner” than originally expected and that President Donald Trump’s Operation Warp Speed — the administration’s efforts to facilitate and accelerate the development, manufacturing, and distribution of vaccines, therapeutics, and diagnostics — has been “working with remarkable efficiency.”

          https://www.dailywire.com/news/nyt-e...ble-efficiency

          https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/12/h...-optimism.html
          And now the WHO is saying something that apparently anyone with common sense was saying, that lockdowns are a bad thing, something that Trump was also against. The five US states that didn't impose a lockdown had low fatality rates and low unemployment. DUH!
          "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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          • #6
            I don't know why anybody is still pretending the WHO is a credible authority when they repeatedly contradict themselves.
            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
            Than a fool in the eyes of God


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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
              I don't know why anybody is still pretending the WHO is a credible authority when they repeatedly contradict themselves.
              For once I've got to agree with you.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                For once I've got to agree with you.
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by seanD View Post
                  The five US states that didn't impose a lockdown had low fatality rates
                  Lots of covid cases and lots of people dying triggers lockdowns. So the states that didn't get many covid cases will have not bothered locking down. Whereas places where there was lots of covid and lots of death will have responded with a lockdown to try to reduce the amount of cases and deaths.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                    Lots of covid cases and lots of people dying triggers lockdowns. So the states that didn't get many covid cases will have not bothered locking down. Whereas places where there was lots of covid and lots of death will have responded with a lockdown to try to reduce the amount of cases and deaths.
                    It would interesting for you to show evidence US states followed that crtierion, but you can't, because it's BS. Iowa had a large infection rate, yet they still didn't lockdown. The issue was politically divisive from the beginning, and that's why the left was insistent on the lockdown, and their states got ravaged as a result. And that's why Dem governors and mayors are still acting like little authoritarian nazis (especially Whitmer who even triggered the supreme court against her tyrannical actions) because they love authoritarianism. It's in their very nature.
                    "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by seanD View Post
                      Iowa had a large infection rate, yet they still didn't lockdown.
                      There are always going to be some outliers.

                      And that's why Dem governors and mayors are still acting like little authoritarian nazis (especially Whitmer who even triggered the supreme court against her tyrannical actions) because they love authoritarianism. It's in their very nature.
                      The fact that right-wingers are more authoritarian than left-wingers is pretty much the first lesson in political science. It's a pattern that repeats worldwide, and is shown over and over and over on all sorts of issues and subjects. There will always be some individual exceptions to any generalization of course. And perhaps some issues might be an exception where other factors are in play (e.g. the left wing tends to be more concerned about public health and more willing to do nanny-state health-related interventions).

                      So the fact that you seem to have convinced yourself that in general Democrats are fundamentally more authoritarian than Republicans is kinda hilarious. Sure.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                        There are always going to be some outliers.

                        The fact that right-wingers are more authoritarian than left-wingers is pretty much the first lesson in political science. It's a pattern that repeats worldwide, and is shown over and over and over on all sorts of issues and subjects. There will always be some individual exceptions to any generalization of course. And perhaps some issues might be an exception where other factors are in play (e.g. the left wing tends to be more concerned about public health and more willing to do nanny-state health-related interventions).

                        So the fact that you seem to have convinced yourself that in general Democrats are fundamentally more authoritarian than Republicans is kinda hilarious. Sure.
                        Other than the Reps backing policy atrocities like the Patriot Act and NDAA (which has bipartisan support), where are Reps authoritarians? You keep repeating this and dressing it with your little emoticons, but haven't established it. We know Dems are authoritarians because of PC culture and what we've seen in how they're running their states and cities (I see it firsthand here in LA). So be specific about it.
                        "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Whateverman View Post

                          From the NYTimes article:


                          Oops!

                          ps. unless "crushing" something includes being 100% wrong about it...
                          It would probably be about over by now if nothing were done to protect the public's health. (And millions of people would be dead, too, of course.)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by seanD View Post
                            the left was insistent on the lockdown, and their states got ravaged as a result.
                            If you google "US covid cases" it shows a little graph and table, and you can order the data by per million population and cases, to see in which states you were most likely to catch Covid if you lived there. Here's the resulting list of the worst states for Covid:


                            ByState.PNG

                            Am I right in thinking Nevada at #12 is the only Clinton-voting state in the top 19 worst-affected states? And that 18/19 worst-affected states are Trump states? Seems like what you said is false. Leftist states weren't the ones that got ravaged.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                              If you google "US covid cases" it shows a little graph and table, and you can order the data by per million population and cases, to see in which states you were most likely to catch Covid if you lived there. Here's the resulting list of the worst states for Covid:


                              ByState.PNG

                              Am I right in thinking Nevada at #12 is the only Clinton-voting state in the top 19 worst-affected states? And that 18/19 worst-affected states are Trump states? Seems like what you said is false. Leftist states weren't the ones that got ravaged.
                              It would be nice for a link to that source. I was referencing Statista per 100k.
                              "I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole, it was like... we had entire training courses. It reminds you of the glory of the American experiment." - Mike Pompeo, Secretary of State (source).

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