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    The topic came up again this morning in a thread and I spent nearly two hours vainly searching for something I posted a couple of times in Tweb's as well as Google's search engines. I put in key words that should have led to hits but not one did. Finally I switched over To Bing and found what I wanted in a couple of minutes.

    Anywho, I decided to make an expanded version the OP for a thread so I'll use the version that was a reply to LPoT as the start



    Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
    It’s all about the narrative. You’re supposed to ignore that it was a Bernie bro that tried to assassinate sitting members of Congress.



    And the Dayton shooter last Summer was also a fanboi of Sanders as well as Warren. And in spite of desperate attempts to link the El Paso shooter to Trump he was a leftist as well (HERE as well)

    While one needs to twist things into a pretzel in order to blame Trump for any act of violence the left always remains as quiet as a church mouse about all the violence that can be directly linked to liberals and their virulent rhetoric.

    Let's start with James Hodgkinson who actually very specifically targeted Republicans[1] before opening fire on them as they practiced for the annual Congressional Baseball Game for Charity. This left wing activist, MSNBC News junkie (notorious for the vitriol directed at Republicans and conservatives) and Bernie Sanders campaign worker who frequently expressed his hatred toward Republicans online, critically wounded House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-Louisiana)[2] as well as wounding four others.

    Then there is Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky) who was attacked from behind in his backyard resulting in five rib fractures including 3 displaced fractures as well as lung contusions (which later resulted in part of his lung being removed) as he was mowing his lawn by Rene Boucher, a neighbor and supporter of the far-left Occupy movement and who's Facebook account is full of anti-Trump rants[3].

    The MSM worked overtime pushing Boucher's story that this was all about a property dispute, but neighbors of both men, as well as the neighborhood homeowners association quickly debunked that. For one thing Boucher did not even live next door to Paul.

    Then there is Rep. David Kustoff (Tennessee) who was nearly run off the road by a stalker, Wendi Wright, who was angry about his vote to repeal and replace Obamacare. She then confronted him when he pulled over screaming, striking the windows on Kustoff's car and even reaching inside the vehicle before finally leaving. She was later arrested after boasting of the confrontation on Facebook and charged with felony reckless endangerment.

    Then there is Rudy Peters, who while running against Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-California) in 2018, who was assaulted by a knife-wielding attacker near a vendor's booth at the Castro Valley Fall Festival after the attacker began screaming profanity-laced remarks about the Republican party and Trump and repeatedly shouting "I'll kill you" as he attacked. Fortunately Ford was able to fend of the attacker using one of his election signs. The attacker, Farzad Fazeli, ran off but was later arrested and charged with felony assault, making criminal threats and brandishing a weapon.

    Then there is Kristin Davison, the campaign manager for Nevada GOP gubernatorial candidate Adam Laxalt who was roughed up by an operative for American Bridge 21st Century, funded by liberal billionaire George Soros, leaving her bruised.

    Then, up in Minnesota, two Republicans were physically assaulted by assailants who were angry about their politics. State Rep. Sarah Anderson was punched when she confronted a man kicking down several of her yard signs and Minnesota House District 15b candidate Shane Mekeland was attacked during a campaign event after the assailant accused Republicans of abandoning the middle class. That attack left him with a concussion.

    Then in Massachusetts there was Shiva Ayyadurai who was running for Senate against Elizabeth Warren and got punched by one of her supporters.








    The MSM has either downplayed or ignored most of these and other actual attacks (the D.C. baseball shooting being the notable exception) while constantly bemoaning how Trump's rancorous rhetoric may some day lead to violence. The fact is that, as can be seen above, the venomous rhetoric spewed from the left in a near constant stream has already led to violence. "Comedians" and other "entertainers" have a long and sordid history of making "jokes" or producing songs and the like advocating violence against Republican leaders. And with extraordinarily few exceptions the left rapidly rallies in their defense.

    And you also have Democrat politicians like Mad Max[ine] Waters (D-Cal) demanding that people "create a crowd and you push back" against Republicans wherever and whenever you see them, calling for in-your-face confrontations as well as encouraging people to mob and harass Trump Administration officials. Likewise presidential hopeful Sen. Cory "I am Spartacus" Booker (D-NJ) urged liberal advocates to "get up in the face of some congresspeople."[4]

    And let's not forget Hillary Clinton's declaration that Democrats shouldn't be civil to Republicans unless they win back control of Washington or former Obama Attorney General Eric Holder's mocking of former first lady Michelle Obama's call for civility when he told supporters, "Michelle always says, ‘When they go low, we go high.’ No. No. When they go low, we kick them," he said, adding, "That’s what this Democratic Party’s about."

    For Holder, "kick[ing] them" is "what this Democratic Party's about."

    Also, you have Senator Jon Tester (D-MT) on MSNBC's Morning Joe program telling his fellow Democrats that they should not be afraid or intimidated by Trump but rather "punch him in the face."

    That goes in hand with what Terry McAuliffe (former Virginia governor who previously was co-chair of Bill Clinton's 1996 re-election campaign and chair of Hillary's first failed presidential campaign) said on MSNBC's Hardball when he told Chris Matthews that Trump ever would "get in my space" he would punch him and that "You’d have to pick him up off the floor."

    As well as Joe Biden fantasizing in 2016 about being back in High School with Trump so that he could "take [Trump] behind the gym and beat the hell out of him."

    Similarly, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), during a rambling disjointed speech, told Democrats last year that they need to "throw a punch for the children."

    And at Illinois State Senator Martin Sandoval’s political fundraiser in 2019 attendees got to "assassinate" someone wearing a Donald Trump mask








    As the image shows you got to simulate assassinating Trump, who was apparently decked out in some sort of garb, with a fake assault rifle. Sandoval did issue an apology "that something like this happened at my event" (apparently it just spontaneously took place without anyone knowing about it ) after public outcry forced it.


    And not too long ago Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), who was Hillary's running mate, was on MSNBC's Morning Joe telling co-host Mika Brzezinski that Democrats needed to "fight in the streets" in order to combat the Trump Administration.

    Apparently that is exactly what Kaine's youngest son "Woody" does as a member of Antifa and who was arrested in Minnesota for taking part in an attack on a pro-Trump rally at the state capitol resulting in the injury of a female Trump supporter and later charged with three misdemeanors. Other charges were dismissed and he made a plea deal resulting in his being sentenced to a year of probation and ordered to pay $236 fine (never hurts to have a powerful politically connected daddy).





    Of course aggressive rhetoric of this sort is nothing new and Trump is hardly the first president to employ some. The last occupant of the White House, Barrack Obama was known to employ more than his share of it, saying things like:
    • "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun."
    • "argue with your neighbors. Get in their face."
    • "Punch back twice as hard."



    Finally stories about people wearing MAGA hats being physically assaulted have become so common that they don't even make the news these days[5]. Heck, even when a man tried to mow down six Trump supporters with his van while they were inside a Republican Party voter registration tent in Jacksonville, Florida this past February, it was ignored by the big three network news shows.


    image_38259.jpg
    The bottom right picture shows the perpetrator's
    vehicle driving away from the scene of the crime








    And a week or so ago the Communications Director for the Democratic Party Of Washington County, Oregon, Clayton John Callahan, was, in the words of the Hillsboro Police account released to the media, "confronted one of the Trump supporters — rallygoers — with a knife, and as a result of his actions he has been arrested."

    This Democrat Party official (admittedly only at the county level) got mad and pulled a knife at a Women For Trump rally, but, as the MSM tells us, it is Trump supporters that you have to watch out for

    There are videos as well as images on the interwebz of this such as these:



    I probably should point out that certainly wasn't a little 'penknife' he was wielding.

    And there is so much more. This is but the tip of the iceberg.


    I can not help but be reminded of Jesus' words in Matthew 7:4-5 whenever those on the left or Never Trumpers start trying to play Six Degrees of Separation in their desperate attempts to link Trump with any and every act of violence while their own hands are red with blood.


    Scripture Verse: Matt. 7:4-5 ESV
    Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

    © Copyright Original Source









    1. Before the shooting he asked if those out on the field were Republicans or Democrats

    2. He was in critical condition for several days as a result of the shooting and was hospitalized for 6 weeks

    3. Nancy Pelosi's daughter, who's the chair of the California Democratic Party women’s caucus and political strategist, tweeted in March of this year that "Rand Paul's neighbor was right" in support of the violent attack on him.


    Further, Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) retweeted a message by increasingly loony actor Tom Arnold, effectively endorsing the violent assault against Paul, but later deleted it after the outcry even though USA Today tried dismissing it as "a subtle jab"

    And former Obama staffer Tommy Vietor mocked Paul concerning the violent attack sneered on Twitter "Start doing a better job not getting beat up by your neighbor."

    4. Is that the sort of message that emboldened Boston Globe opinion writer Luke O'Neil to write a piece for that paper encouraging restaurant workers to tamper with Republicans' -- particularly former Trump staffers' -- food?

    James Thomas, an assistant professor of sociology at the University of Mississippi ('Ole Miss') recommended going further because the Senate confirmed Kavanaugh. In a tweet referencing those who besieged Ted Cruz he urged:

    Don’t just interrupt a Senator’s meal y'al [sic]. Put your whole damn fingers in their salads. Take their apps and distribute them to the other diners. Bring boxes and take their food home with you on the way out. They don’t deserve your civility.


    Of course the more moderate Democrats merely want those who they disagree with to be denied public accommodation based on what they think. The justification for this came from the Washington Post in an op-ed by Stephanie Wilkinson, the owner of the Red Hen restaurant in Lexington, Virginia which in 2018 not only refused to serve White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders and told Sanders and her family to leave the restaurant, Wilkinson and her staff then followed the Sanders group to protest as they went to another place to eat.

    5. This is about the last one I ran across, from over a year ago, that wasn't in a blog or YouTube video: Man says he was beaten in NYC for wearing MAGA hat
    Last edited by rogue06; 10-13-2020, 02:04 PM.

    I'm always still in trouble again

    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

  • #2
    That's too much info for my leftist brain to process. Orange man bad because he said.... *then proceed to quote something he said out of context*

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    • #3
      Any sufficiently large sample will always have a few outliers, and any generalization a few exceptions.

      By focusing on a tiny tiny handful of exceptional instances, you are ignoring the wider picture and misleading yourself and your readers.

      The various stats and reports that the FBI, Homeland Security, and other government departments publish every year or 4, consistently show it is right-wing groups that are the problem when it comes to violence, terror attacks, hate crimes etc. Yes, it's true the number of left-wing offenders in these reports isn't zero, but it is far far less than the number of right-wing offenders, who tend to be about 10x worse. The left simply doesn't do as much political violence as the right does, and that's seen year after year, decade after decade, in the data.
      "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
      "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
      "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        Any sufficiently large sample will always have a few outliers, and any generalization a few exceptions.
        These "outliers" include the former POTUS, the former VPOTUS, several Senators and Representatives (including the Speaker of the House) among others. The attacks involving their supporters, including campaign staff members, included firearms and knives. Some of their victims, a U.S. Representative and a Senator, ended up in the hospital for weeks with one fighting for his life for days and another needing to have part of a lung removed



        I'm always still in trouble again

        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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        • #5
          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
          These "outliers" include the former POTUS, the former VPOTUS, several Senators and Representatives (including the Speaker of the House) among others.
          A former POTUS and VPOTUS personally violently attacked someone? I mean, I did know Dick Cheney shot someone, but my understanding was it wasn't politically motivated.

          I guess 2020 has been a busy year, so I might have blinked and missed Jimmy Carter & Al Gore teaming up to do a mass shooting of Trump supporters.
          "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
          "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
          "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
            A former POTUS and VPOTUS personally violently attacked someone? I mean, I did know Dick Cheney shot someone, but my understanding was it wasn't politically motivated.

            I guess 2020 has been a busy year, so I might have blinked and missed Jimmy Carter & Al Gore teaming up to do a mass shooting of Trump supporters.
            Are you being deliberately obtuse or is it just something you can not help and have no control over?

            It has been leading members in the Democrat Party, including Obama and Biden, as I documented, along with various U.S. Senators and Representatives (also documented in the OP) that have used language encouraging violence toward political opponents and their followers have followed their lead

            I'm always still in trouble again

            "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
            "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
            "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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