Covid drug given to Trump developed using cells derived from aborted fetus

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

How interesting. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-from-abortion

One of the drugs taken by Donald Trump that he has touted as a potential “cure” for coronavirus was developed using human cells originally obtained from an elective abortion, a practice repeatedly denounced by the president and many of his supporters. The drug is a monoclonal antibody cocktail developed by Regeneron. The president received an 8-gram infusion under a “compassionate use” exemption when he was hospitalized over the weekend after testing positive for Covid-19. There is no cure for Covid-19, and the drug is not approved. The stem cells used to develop the drug are known as HEK-293T cells, a line of cells used in laboratories. The cells were originally derived from an embryonic kidney after an elective abortion performed in the Netherlands in the 1970s.

[mossrose]

This is already being discussed ad nauseum in another thread.

Do try to keep up.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

This is already being discussed ad nauseum in another thread.

Do try to keep up.

Really? He only came out of hospital on Monday. Goodness me what busy little bees some people are.

[Mountain Man]

Fact Check: Left Falsely Claims Trump’s Coronavirus Treatments Developed Using Fetal Tissue

CLAIM: Leftwing media are claiming the medications President Donald Trump was given to treat his coronavirus infection were developed using fetal tissue from aborted babies.

VERDICT: False. None of the medications Trump was given involved the destruction of human life.

[...]

...a statement from David Prentice, Ph.D., and Tara Sander Lee, Ph.D., of the Charlotte Lozier Institute (CLI), the research arm of the pro-life Susan B. Anthony List, addresses what they refer to as “uninformed commentary … stating that President Trump has received a medication created with the use of human embryonic stem cells.”

The CLI scholars state:

CLI has reviewed the published information and our conclusion is straightforward: The president was not given any medicines to treat COVID-19 that involved the destruction of human life. No human embryonic stem cells or human fetal tissue were used to produce the treatments President Trump received–period.

Prentice and Sander Lee present “the facts”:

The Regeneron therapy given to the president was made in Velocimmune humanized mice, a novel platform that uses genetically modified mouse embryonic stem (ES) cells to generate antibodies described here and here. Development of Regeneron’s antibody cocktail is detailed in the journal Science, describing how they identified their antibodies made from Velocimmune mice and blood from recovered patients previously infected with SARS-CoV-2. The final antibody pair used in the REGN-COV2 therapy cocktail was then produced in Chinese hamster ovary (CHO) cells. Results from Regeneron’s REGN-COV2 clinical trials to treat COVID-19 patients are reported here.

The CLI scholars say embryonic stem cells from mice have been key in the development of alternatives to fetal tissue:

Mouse embryonic stem cells and genetic modifications to make such mice date back to 1981, have been extensively studied, and were instrumental in the discovery of induced pluripotent stem (iPS) cells, another fully ethical alternative to fetal material, as discussed in this Nature review. iPSCs are much easier to use than human embryonic stem cells, more flexible in their uses, and are not ethically controversial. No one has ever advocated against using mouse embryonic stem cells for development of therapies – only against destruction of human lives.

“And finally, the anti-viral medicine remdesivir and the anti-inflammatory corticosteroid dexamethasone, also given to the president to treat COVID-19, are chemicals—no cells of any kind were used to produce these medicines,” CLI states.

“These facts reinforce this truth: ethical treatments are saving lives every day–including the president of the United States,” the CLI officials observe.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-fetal-tissue/

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Fact Check: Left Falsely Claims Trump’s Coronavirus Treatments Developed Using Fetal Tissue

CLAIM: Leftwing media are claiming the medications President Donald Trump was given to treat his coronavirus infection were developed using fetal tissue from aborted babies.

VERDICT: False. None of the medications Trump was given involved the destruction of human life.

[...]

...a statement from David Prentice, Ph.D., and Tara Sander Lee, Ph.D., of the Charlotte Lozier Institute (CLI), the research arm of the pro-life Susan B. Anthony List, addresses what they refer to as “uninformed commentary … stating that President Trump has received a medication created with the use of human embryonic stem cells.”

The CLI scholars state:

CLI has reviewed the published information and our conclusion is straightforward: The president was not given any medicines to treat COVID-19 that involved the destruction of human life. No human embryonic stem cells or human fetal tissue were used to produce the treatments President Trump received–period.

Prentice and Sander Lee present “the facts”:

The Regeneron therapy given to the president was made in Velocimmune humanized mice, a novel platform that uses genetically modified mouse embryonic stem (ES) cells to generate antibodies described here and here. Development of Regeneron’s antibody cocktail is detailed in the journal Science, describing how they identified their antibodies made from Velocimmune mice and blood from recovered patients previously infected with SARS-CoV-2. The final antibody pair used in the REGN-COV2 therapy cocktail was then produced in Chinese hamster ovary (CHO) cells. Results from Regeneron’s REGN-COV2 clinical trials to treat COVID-19 patients are reported here.

The CLI scholars say embryonic stem cells from mice have been key in the development of alternatives to fetal tissue:

Mouse embryonic stem cells and genetic modifications to make such mice date back to 1981, have been extensively studied, and were instrumental in the discovery of induced pluripotent stem (iPS) cells, another fully ethical alternative to fetal material, as discussed in this Nature review. iPSCs are much easier to use than human embryonic stem cells, more flexible in their uses, and are not ethically controversial. No one has ever advocated against using mouse embryonic stem cells for development of therapies – only against destruction of human lives.

“And finally, the anti-viral medicine remdesivir and the anti-inflammatory corticosteroid dexamethasone, also given to the president to treat COVID-19, are chemicals—no cells of any kind were used to produce these medicines,” CLI states.

“These facts reinforce this truth: ethical treatments are saving lives every day–including the president of the United States,” the CLI officials observe.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-fetal-tissue/

Why should I give any credence to Breitbart?

[Mountain Man]

Why should I give any credence to Breitbart?

Maybe you could trouble yourself to show what in the article is actually wrong instead of throwing the genetic fallacy at the wall and hoping it sticks.

[Sparko]

From what I read (Liconafan and I were discussing it in the Trump COVID thread) the HEK human embryo line was used in some research by others into how the antibodies worked on human cells and they used that research as information in the development of their antibody treatment using the mouse line. But it was a lot of convoluted scientific jargon and really hard to understand.

[thormas]

Why should I give any credence to Breitbart?

Excellent point......

[Whateverman]

Maybe you could trouble yourself to show what in the article is actually wrong instead of throwing the genetic fallacy at the wall and hoping it sticks.

Maybe you shouldn't whine about same fallacies you routinely commit yourself:

"WaPo" is fake news.

Oops...