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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post...fallacious attempt at a personal attack...
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
More leftist filth. Y'all really enjoy that, don't you? (go look up what happens with the leftist LGBT scene wrt kids cross-dressing and stripping at LGBT bars, for some more leftist filth)
Would have thought JonBenet Ramsay would have been a wakeup call all those years before, but the left can't resist degeneracy.
Do you really imagine that the child beauty pagaent phenomenon is solely of the left? If so, you are seriously deluded - particularly seeing it is very strong in the south, a predominantly conservative area. But then, if you admitted that, you wouldn't have a childish slur to throw at the left, would you?
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Originally posted by Juvenal View PostCuties’ Sparks a Firestorm, Again, After Its Netflix Release
.The film, which was released as “Mignonnes” in France and won a directing award from the Sundance Institute in February, follows an 11-year-old girl named Amy (Fathia Youssouf) as she tries to find her place growing up in a poor suburb of Paris. At home, Amy has to please her family, who are observant Muslims from Senegal, but she eventually falls in with a group of friends who have their own dance troupe in defiance of her family’s strict rules.
Maïmouna Doucouré, the film’s director, said in an interview with Netflix that the movie incorporated elements of her own childhood in its portrayal of Amy’s struggles between two distinct modes of femininity: one dictated by the traditional values of her Senegalese and Muslim upbringing, the other by Western society.
“I recreated the little girl who I was at that age,” she said. “Growing up in two cultures is what gave me the strength and the values I have today.”
“As a child, that question of how to become a woman was my obsession,” she added.
Ms. Doucouré has said that the idea for the film came to her after she attended a neighborhood gathering in Paris where she saw a group of 11-year-olds performing a “very sexual, very sensual” dance. She said she spent a year and a half doing research and meeting with hundreds of preteens to prepare for the film.
“I needed to know how they felt about their own femininity in today’s society and how they dealt with their self-image at a time when social media is so important,” she told Netflix.
The more sexualized a woman appears on social media, the more girls will perceive her as successful, Ms. Doucouré said.
“Children just imitate what they see to achieve the same result without understanding the meaning,” she said. “And yeah, it’s dangerous.”
I took a special interest in the film due to its origins with an emigrée from Senegal, a country that's dear to me from my time there and my close Senegalese friends. Senegal has deep, intransigent issues, but public child sexualization isn't one of them. Women, of any age, are not cat-called in the streets. These are intransigent western problems, and the movie derives from the needs of its muslim director to push back against them to reclaim the childhood innocence that's more typical in predominantly muslim societies.
Yes, the film depicts sexualization of children because it's necessary to identify a problem in order to effectively oppose it.
.An IMDb parents’ guide rates the film’s sex and nudity as “severe.” Several scenes show young girls dancing suggestively in short outfits.
The linked scene depicts children dancing provocatively, but it doesn't do so approvingly. The audience is overwhelmingly opposed, and to note the former without noting the latter is to damn the film by misrepresentation, as further noted in the comments.
.Okay if you actually watched this movie you’d know that a few more seconds in, the main character suddenly begins crying and has an epiphany where she realizes she is throwing away her childhood. She runs off stage, goes home, and the movie ends w her jumping rope and being a kid
On those who judge a film they have not seen and will not see, I have my own judgment. But that judgment is instead based on what I am seeing, right now.
So if they made a movie where they actually raped women on camera in order to show that rape is bad, that would be OK too?
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostNo it's wrong. Period.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostNo it's wrong. Period.
Just like 'Cuties/Mignonnes'. Period.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostLet's have a sense of perspective here: dolling up a little girl and having her strut across the stage is wrong to a certain degree
Originally posted by Mountain Man View Postbut it's not to the same degree as having that same little girl perform an obscene dance in a film ostensibly about how bad it is to have little girls perform an obscene dance,
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostI would not call a Baby/Toddler pageant leftist filth
but I certainly find such things very unhealthy. Who knows what Grandpa does with his video footage afterwards?
Oh Gond you are being droll again - you are such a sweetie.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
And Texas which has brought the indictment against Netflix is home to such a pageant that promotes and glamorises the hyper-sexualisation of very young girls [including toddlers].
Which is to say that your attempt at moral equivalence falls flat.Last edited by Mountain Man; 10-08-2020, 06:27 PM.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View PostYes.
Originally posted by Gondwanaland View PostOh, we both know your interest is in supporting such perversions
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostAre Beauty Pageants like the Little Miss Texas pageant "leftist filth"?
I regret that I do not share your interest in such matters.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostAnd her opening post suggests that she was actually expecting us to defend prepubescent beauty pageants.
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Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post
More leftist filth.
Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post(go look up what happens with the leftist LGBT scene wrt kids cross-dressing and stripping at LGBT bars, for some more leftist filth)
Last edited by Hypatia_Alexandria; 10-08-2020, 05:41 PM.
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Originally posted by Juvenal View PostCuties’ Sparks a Firestorm, Again, After Its Netflix Release
.The film, which was released as “Mignonnes” in France and won a directing award from the Sundance Institute in February, follows an 11-year-old girl named Amy (Fathia Youssouf) as she tries to find her place growing up in a poor suburb of Paris. At home, Amy has to please her family, who are observant Muslims from Senegal, but she eventually falls in with a group of friends who have their own dance troupe in defiance of her family’s strict rules.
Maïmouna Doucouré, the film’s director, said in an interview with Netflix that the movie incorporated elements of her own childhood in its portrayal of Amy’s struggles between two distinct modes of femininity: one dictated by the traditional values of her Senegalese and Muslim upbringing, the other by Western society.
“I recreated the little girl who I was at that age,” she said. “Growing up in two cultures is what gave me the strength and the values I have today.”
“As a child, that question of how to become a woman was my obsession,” she added.
Ms. Doucouré has said that the idea for the film came to her after she attended a neighborhood gathering in Paris where she saw a group of 11-year-olds performing a “very sexual, very sensual” dance. She said she spent a year and a half doing research and meeting with hundreds of preteens to prepare for the film.
“I needed to know how they felt about their own femininity in today’s society and how they dealt with their self-image at a time when social media is so important,” she told Netflix.
The more sexualized a woman appears on social media, the more girls will perceive her as successful, Ms. Doucouré said.
“Children just imitate what they see to achieve the same result without understanding the meaning,” she said. “And yeah, it’s dangerous.”
I took a special interest in the film due to its origins with an emigrée from Senegal, a country that's dear to me from my time there and my close Senegalese friends. Senegal has deep, intransigent issues, but public child sexualization isn't one of them. Women, of any age, are not cat-called in the streets. These are intransigent western problems, and the movie derives from the needs of its muslim director to push back against them to reclaim the childhood innocence that's more typical in predominantly muslim societies.
Yes, the film depicts sexualization of children because it's necessary to identify a problem in order to effectively oppose it.
.An IMDb parents’ guide rates the film’s sex and nudity as “severe.” Several scenes show young girls dancing suggestively in short outfits.
The linked scene depicts children dancing provocatively, but it doesn't do so approvingly. The audience is overwhelmingly opposed, and to note the former without noting the latter is to damn the film by misrepresentation, as further noted in the comments.
.Okay if you actually watched this movie you’d know that a few more seconds in, the main character suddenly begins crying and has an epiphany where she realizes she is throwing away her childhood. She runs off stage, goes home, and the movie ends w her jumping rope and being a kid
On those who judge a film they have not seen and will not see, I have my own judgment. But that judgment is instead based on what I am seeing, right now.
And in the scene at the end of the film where the girls perform their dance routine for the competition you see the audience and the judges becoming more disconcerted at it.
Amy stops half way though, leaves the stage, and returns home to her mother [the other plot line revolves around what is happening In Amy's personal life]. I recommend it as a very good film.
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Cuties’ Sparks a Firestorm, Again, After Its Netflix Release
.The film, which was released as “Mignonnes” in France and won a directing award from the Sundance Institute in February, follows an 11-year-old girl named Amy (Fathia Youssouf) as she tries to find her place growing up in a poor suburb of Paris. At home, Amy has to please her family, who are observant Muslims from Senegal, but she eventually falls in with a group of friends who have their own dance troupe in defiance of her family’s strict rules.
Maïmouna Doucouré, the film’s director, said in an interview with Netflix that the movie incorporated elements of her own childhood in its portrayal of Amy’s struggles between two distinct modes of femininity: one dictated by the traditional values of her Senegalese and Muslim upbringing, the other by Western society.
“I recreated the little girl who I was at that age,” she said. “Growing up in two cultures is what gave me the strength and the values I have today.”
“As a child, that question of how to become a woman was my obsession,” she added.
Ms. Doucouré has said that the idea for the film came to her after she attended a neighborhood gathering in Paris where she saw a group of 11-year-olds performing a “very sexual, very sensual” dance. She said she spent a year and a half doing research and meeting with hundreds of preteens to prepare for the film.
“I needed to know how they felt about their own femininity in today’s society and how they dealt with their self-image at a time when social media is so important,” she told Netflix.
The more sexualized a woman appears on social media, the more girls will perceive her as successful, Ms. Doucouré said.
“Children just imitate what they see to achieve the same result without understanding the meaning,” she said. “And yeah, it’s dangerous.”
I took a special interest in the film due to its origins with an emigrée from Senegal, a country that's dear to me from my time there and my close Senegalese friends. Senegal has deep, intransigent issues, but public child sexualization isn't one of them. Women, of any age, are not cat-called in the streets. These are intransigent western problems, and the movie derives from the needs of its muslim director to push back against them to reclaim the childhood innocence that's more typical in predominantly muslim societies.
Yes, the film depicts sexualization of children because it's necessary to identify a problem in order to effectively oppose it.
.An IMDb parents’ guide rates the film’s sex and nudity as “severe.” Several scenes show young girls dancing suggestively in short outfits.
The linked scene depicts children dancing provocatively, but it doesn't do so approvingly. The audience is overwhelmingly opposed, and to note the former without noting the latter is to damn the film by misrepresentation, as further noted in the comments.
.Okay if you actually watched this movie you’d know that a few more seconds in, the main character suddenly begins crying and has an epiphany where she realizes she is throwing away her childhood. She runs off stage, goes home, and the movie ends w her jumping rope and being a kid
On those who judge a film they have not seen and will not see, I have my own judgment. But that judgment is instead based on what I am seeing, right now.
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