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  • #46
    Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

    Why do you imagine actresses are being sexualised?
    humping the floor and thrusting your pelvis at the camera whilst being scantily clad is not 'sexualizing'? Get a grip, lady.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post


      However, if we had had a daughter I would see no reason to prevent her being in such a film.
      Why am I not surprised?

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Gondwanaland View Post

        humping the floor and thrusting your pelvis at the camera whilst being scantily clad is not 'sexualizing'? Get a grip, lady.
        That scene was clearly viewed by you entirely out of its context within the film.
        "It ain't necessarily so
        The things that you're liable
        To read in the Bible
        It ain't necessarily so
        ."

        Sportin' Life
        Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

          So you have not seen it you are simply judging it after viewing selected scenes. Thank you.
          Because those scenes show sexualization and exploitation of young girls. As to the posters (which I will say right now we won't allow on this site) - if the trailers and posters are pornographic why would anyone have to watch the entire movie to see more?


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          • #50
            Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

            That scene was clearly viewed by you entirely out of its context within the film.
            Unless that actress wasn't actually doing what she was doing in the scene, the context doesn't matter. She was actually doing it for the camera. Probably multiple takes until she got it "right"


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            • #51
              Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
              humping the floor and thrusting your pelvis at the camera whilst being scantily clad is not 'sexualizing'?
              That scene was clearly viewed by you entirely out of its context within the film.
              There is no context that could make that sort of thing acceptable.
              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
              Than a fool in the eyes of God


              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                There is no context that could make that sort of thing acceptable.
                It is very telling that Gondwanaland described it as "humping the floor". It is nothing of the kind in the film. So where is the pornography? It appears to be in the eye of the beholder.
                "It ain't necessarily so
                The things that you're liable
                To read in the Bible
                It ain't necessarily so
                ."

                Sportin' Life
                Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                  Unless that actress wasn't actually doing what she was doing in the scene, the context doesn't matter. She was actually doing it for the camera. Probably multiple takes until she got it "right"
                  And another male contributor who considers it to be "humping the floor". How interesting.

                  "It ain't necessarily so
                  The things that you're liable
                  To read in the Bible
                  It ain't necessarily so
                  ."

                  Sportin' Life
                  Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                    It is very telling that Gondwanaland described it as "humping the floor". It is nothing of the kind in the film. So where is the pornography? It appears to be in the eye of the beholder.
                    Ah, the good old "It's not obscene, you just have a dirty mind" rationalization.
                    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                    Than a fool in the eyes of God


                    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                      Because those scenes show sexualization and exploitation of young girls. As to the posters (which I will say right now we won't allow on this site) - if the trailers and posters are pornographic why would anyone have to watch the entire movie to see more?
                      The film is actually quite funny parts and rather moving. A young French African Muslim girl, Aminata [aka Amy] is torn between the restrictive and patriarchal life ahead of her in her community and how [based on advertising etc] she and her friends think secular society expects a young girl to behave. Both are extremes and the film ends optimistically with Amy recognising that she does not have to conform to either.
                      "It ain't necessarily so
                      The things that you're liable
                      To read in the Bible
                      It ain't necessarily so
                      ."

                      Sportin' Life
                      Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                        Ah, the good old "It's not obscene, you just have a dirty mind" rationalization.
                        The scene that Gondwanaland describes as "humping the floor" is the culmination of several earlier events. It opens with Amy coming home to face her furious mother and aunt who chastise her by stripping her to her undergarments and flicking water at her while they mutter [what I assume are prayers to drive out the devil]. A later scene has her visited by a male elder who assures her mother that Amy is not possessed.

                        What we see in Gondwanaland's rather crude comment is Amy effectively breaking down. She has recently started to menstruate and is now regarded by her aunt as a "woman" but she is still a girl. She and her friends have worked out a dance routine for a local competition. Their routine is overtly sexual because that is what these young girls assume is expected by society of young women.

                        Hence in that scene what she starts to do is perform some of the routine while her mother and aunt stand by in some consternation, thus leading to the male elder visiting her in a later scene.
                        "It ain't necessarily so
                        The things that you're liable
                        To read in the Bible
                        It ain't necessarily so
                        ."

                        Sportin' Life
                        Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                          Their routine is overtly sexual because that is what these young girls assume is expected by society of young women.
                          And, of course, to get this point across, the filmmakers just had to have young girls perform an overtly sexual routine on camera.

                          So it's what the Babylon Bee said in their satire: "We're going to murder puppies on camera to show you how bad puppy murder is!"
                          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                          Than a fool in the eyes of God


                          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                          • #58
                            There is no virtue of the film that can justify the use of underage actors to perform actions they cannot have the maturity to understand and handle. That, in addition to the nature of the beast in film making, makes it child exploitation in U.S. eyes.

                            Somebody here said Netflix didn't make the film but I don't recall anybody making that claim.

                            Netflix knows perfectly well what the American law says. I'm sure they're out to milk the publicity all they can. Currently their stock is good so they can afford to disrespect the Congressional and legal demands for answers. Whether their arrogance in airing this movie during the movement to save our children will backfire remains to be seen. I'd love to see this outcry filter down to all those atrocious kidde contest shows and finally have an effect for the children's sake.
                            Watch your links! http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/fa...corumetiquette

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                              The scene that Gondwanaland describes as "humping the floor" is the culmination of several earlier events. It opens with Amy coming home to face her furious mother and aunt who chastise her by stripping her to her undergarments and flicking water at her while they mutter [what I assume are prayers to drive out the devil]. A later scene has her visited by a male elder who assures her mother that Amy is not possessed.

                              What we see in Gondwanaland's rather crude comment is Amy effectively breaking down. She has recently started to menstruate and is now regarded by her aunt as a "woman" but she is still a girl. She and her friends have worked out a dance routine for a local competition. Their routine is overtly sexual because that is what these young girls assume is expected by society of young women.

                              Hence in that scene what she starts to do is perform some of the routine while her mother and aunt stand by in some consternation, thus leading to the male elder visiting her in a later scene.
                              Ya sure, and you expect people to watch that?

                              Europeans have always seemed lax on sexual issues, likely dating back to the European traditions of grooming and girls getting married right after puberty.

                              The US has thought better of it, and we don't like to see ten year olds sexually exploited. What you would call "art". It has no redeeming value to a nation that already recognizes it as sexual exploitation. I guess Europe is still trying to figure out that it is debased behavior.

                              And yes, culturally the US is aghast at little kiddie beauty pageants. But it is apparently legal, and we are a nation of laws, so they can get away with it, while everyone else is repulsed by it. Liberty ain't for the weak.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View Post
                                The charges will go no where. They'll be dismissed on some grounds. My prediction: Texas doesn't have standing to bring the charges.

                                This is an AG trying to get publicity and nothing more.
                                Actually he's related to a US Representative. I suspect they're maneuvering for standing.
                                Watch your links! http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/fa...corumetiquette

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