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  • Originally posted by DesertBerean View Post
    I'm perfectly aware they have not been brought to trial. They should be and they may be.
    They probably will be, and the plaintiff will probably lose.

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    • Originally posted by Electric Skeptic View Post
      Nope. What in my world constitutes having a neuroses is demonstrated in your next line, below.


      Yet another neurotic-about-sex American calls someone a pedophile because they actually bothered to see the movie before they made a decision on it and didn't subsequently scream for it to be banned.
      Um, in case you missed it you are the one who said that those who are concerned about preteens and barely teens being sexually exploited suffer from a neurosis and now are "neurotic-about-sex". So why would anyone defend such behavior in the manner you do unless they're defending a behavior they support?

      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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      • Originally posted by DesertBerean View Post

        The law in question is this: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/t...20such%20minor

        And the movie does tick at least the majority of the domestic (because this IS a foreign film so we can only look at domestic) offenses listed in that part of the code. I'm perfectly aware they have not been brought to trial. They should be and they may be.
        It'll likely be settled out of court.

        I'm always still in trouble again

        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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        • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post


          However, to judge a film without first seeing it is nothing short of narrow minded prejudice. We have seen similar reactions in the past movies. I recall the furore over The Last Temptation of Christ and The Life of Brian by people, most of whom had never seen either film but prejudged them on what they had been told/read or seen from clips.
          My opinion is based on the clips that the director or Netflix put together to represent the film. Naturally they would try to portray it in a good light so they'd hardly take scenes out of context and make them look bad.

          Now, if all I saw were clips that opponents of the film put together then you might have an argument that I have not seen a fair representation of it but rather a biased presentation. But that is not the case. This is equivalent of looking at the evidence that the defense presented at a trial. It is nobody's fault but their own if the material they specifically selected confirmed what detractors had claimed.

          Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
          Except that it isn't. At least no more than having five years olds made up to look like travesties of Dolly Parton.
          As I said, I'd have no problem with that crap being flushed as well, but the fact is that regardless of how grotesque they are there is a stark difference. Those insipid "beauty pageants" are effectively girls playing dress up (except mom is helping and they simply go to far). In contrast to those pageants being a parody[1] of little girls dressing up like mommy, "Cuties" is more like little girls lampooning what mommy does in the bedroom with daddy when the door is closed.



          1. I bolded the word so as to make it more difficult for you to engage in your typical game of misrepresentation of what someone said.

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            My opinion is based on the clips that the director or Netflix put together to represent the film. Naturally they would try to portray it in a good light so they'd hardly take scenes out of context and make them look bad.

            Now, if all I saw were clips that opponents of the film put together then you might have an argument that I have not seen a fair representation of it but rather a biased presentation. But that is not the case. This is equivalent of looking at the evidence that the defense presented at a trial. It is nobody's fault but their own if the material they specifically selected confirmed what detractors had claimed.


            As I said, I'd have no problem with that crap being flushed as well, but the fact is that regardless of how grotesque they are there is a stark difference. Those insipid "beauty pageants" are effectively girls playing dress up (except mom is helping and they simply go to far). In contrast to those pageants being a parody[1] of little girls dressing up like mommy, "Cuties" is more like little girls lampooning what mommy does in the bedroom with daddy when the door is closed.



            1. I bolded the word so as to make it more difficult for you to engage in your typical game of misrepresentation of what someone said.
            You unfortunately chose the incorrect word. The child beauty pageants are not parodies i.e.any humorous, satirical, or burlesque imitation, as of a person, event, etc.

            These child beauty pageants have little girls decked out as travesties i.e. a grotesque or debased likeness or imitation:

            What were these clips to which you refer? Or do you in fact mean a trailer?
            "It ain't necessarily so
            The things that you're liable
            To read in the Bible
            It ain't necessarily so
            ."

            Sportin' Life
            Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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            • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

              You unfortunately chose the incorrect word. The child beauty pageants are not parodies i.e.any humorous, satirical, or burlesque imitation, as of a person, event, etc.

              These child beauty pageants have little girls decked out as travesties i.e. a grotesque or debased likeness or imitation:

              What were these clips to which you refer? Or do you in fact mean a trailer?
              Edited to add. I do not misrepresent what people write but I do hold them to the word[s] they have chosen.

              "It ain't necessarily so
              The things that you're liable
              To read in the Bible
              It ain't necessarily so
              ."

              Sportin' Life
              Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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              • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                It'll likely be settled out of court.
                Yeah and I hope the settlement will hit NETFLIX where it hurts.

                I pray the girls will be okay despite the abuse they've received.
                Watch your links! http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/fa...corumetiquette

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                • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                  You unfortunately chose the incorrect word. The child beauty pageants are not parodies i.e.any humorous, satirical, or burlesque imitation, as of a person, event, etc.

                  These child beauty pageants have little girls decked out as travesties i.e. a grotesque or debased likeness or imitation:

                  What were these clips to which you refer? Or do you in fact mean a trailer?
                  The trailers aired on Netflix.

                  I really find it odd that you are against those beauty pageants (and I've made it clear I'm anything but a fan of them) and yet seek to defend something that is by any measure even worse.

                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                  "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                  • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                    The trailers aired on Netflix.

                    I really find it odd that you are against those beauty pageants (and I've made it clear I'm anything but a fan of them) and yet seek to defend something that is by any measure even worse.
                    Perhaps she needs to change her username to Hypocritical_Alexandria.
                    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                    Than a fool in the eyes of God


                    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                    • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post

                      Perhaps she needs to change her username to Hypocritical_Alexandria.
                      Point of information, while your initial remark referred to those toddler beauty pageants "disgusting", you later modified your comments and wrote, "Let's have a sense of perspective here: dolling up a little girl in a cute dress and makeup and having her strut across the stage is wrong to a certain degree" [post #33 https://theologyweb.com/campus/forum...s-style/page3]

                      Only to a "certain degree"? And what do you define as a "cute dress"? Perhaps something like this?



                      Or perhaps this?





                      Millions of young girls are exposed to the sexual objectification of women by corporate businesses including social media, advertising, the fashion industry, and the music industry. And tweenies emulate in their bedrooms, at parties, and other social events what they see on their screens, read in their glossy magazines, or view in the shopping mall. Clearly some of you have never attended any event involving girls aged around 11-13 years old..

                      The real hypocrisy lies with you and others like you here. If you are all so desperately concerned about child exploitation you should turn your wrath on those multi-national businesses mentioned above where anything and everything is up for exploitation as long as it turns a profit. However, that is the dark heart of rampant and uncontrolled capitalism.

                      And it is those businesses and the cultural attitudes they engender that the film is critiquing.

                      So before you all condemn Doucouré for the perceived mote in her eye take that log in your own.
                      "It ain't necessarily so
                      The things that you're liable
                      To read in the Bible
                      It ain't necessarily so
                      ."

                      Sportin' Life
                      Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                      • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        The trailers aired on Netflix.

                        I really find it odd that you are against those beauty pageants (and I've made it clear I'm anything but a fan of them) and yet seek to defend something that is by any measure even worse.
                        My reply above to Mountain Man is also relevant to your remarks.
                        "It ain't necessarily so
                        The things that you're liable
                        To read in the Bible
                        It ain't necessarily so
                        ."

                        Sportin' Life
                        Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                        • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                          Only to a "certain degree"?
                          Yes, similar to how punching someone in the nose without provocation is wrong to a certain degree but not to the same degree that it would be to murder them in cold blood.
                          Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                          But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                          Than a fool in the eyes of God


                          From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                          • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                            Yes, similar to how punching someone in the nose without provocation is wrong to a certain degree but not to the same degree that it would be to murder them in cold blood.
                            Do you think the dresses from those images from beauty pageants that I posted were "cute"? Were the make-up and poses only "wrong to a certain degree" ?

                            Do you think [given the age differences] those beauty pageant images are more acceptable than this?

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                            Last edited by QuantaFille; 10-16-2020, 06:55 PM.
                            "It ain't necessarily so
                            The things that you're liable
                            To read in the Bible
                            It ain't necessarily so
                            ."

                            Sportin' Life
                            Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                            • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                              ...
                              It seems like you're just trolling now instead of trying to engage in intellectually honest discussion.
                              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                              Than a fool in the eyes of God


                              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                              • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                                It seems like you're just trolling now instead of trying to engage in intellectually honest discussion.
                                I asked you some questions premised on what you wrote.

                                It seems you are reluctant to answer. However, getting five year olds to have their hair coiffured like Mommy or even Grandma, slapping fake tan and masses of make-up on them and then getting them into provocative outfits so they can go on stage to wiggle their hips and sing lyrics that are far from age appropriate does not seem to offend Texas or indeed several contributors to this board as much as a group of 12/13 year olds in a movie.

                                I've yet to see a thread posted by a Christian condemning toddler beauty pageants for the sexual exploitation of very young girls they are undoubtedly are.

                                In fact one might opine that the popular dance routine gestures and movements that the girls in Mignonnes/Cuties mimic from what they have seen on social media etc, are simply the next phase on from those encouraged among little girls in those All American toddler beauty pageants.
                                "It ain't necessarily so
                                The things that you're liable
                                To read in the Bible
                                It ain't necessarily so
                                ."

                                Sportin' Life
                                Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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