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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
I might make the same observation about you.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
Then be specific, what facts am I ignoring?
That you cannot see the connection between the professed "ideals" of such groups and earlier manifestations of fascism is a fact you are unable to recognise. Perhaps because you do not wish to."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
That groups you allege to admire [while also acknowledging you know nothing of their policies] are neo-fascists.
That you cannot see the connection between the professed "ideals" of such groups and earlier manifestations of fascism is a fact you are unable to recognise. Perhaps because you do not wish to.
And I would love to see more of this:
Utah BLM and Proud Boys leaders hold joint press conference calling for unity in America
https://www.theblaze.com/news/local-...e-supremacists
Last edited by seer; 10-02-2020, 08:34 AM.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
But you never demonstrated that groups like the Proud Boys were neo-fascists.
Gavin McInnes has stated “We will kill you. That’s the Proud Boys in a nutshell. We will kill you,” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SJGSrYLWxQ at 3.06 NB. very strong language from outset. His reference to Bill the Butcher and the Bowery Boys of course refers to this group https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org..._Nothing_Party.
I do not see remarks like that to be overly different from a 1920s SA slogan which translates as "We will beat our way to the top"
Originally posted by seer View PostThe fascism of old came to power largely through violence.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostBoth my comments and those made by others have linked this group with extremist RW and neo-fascist policies you just do not want to accept it.
Gavin McInnes has stated “We will kill you. That’s the Proud Boys in a nutshell. We will kill you,” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SJGSrYLWxQ at 3.06 NB. very strong language from outset. His reference to Bill the Butcher and the Bowery Boys of course refers to this group https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org..._Nothing_Party.
I do not see remarks like that to be overly different from a 1920s SA slogan which translates as "We will beat our way to the top"
Quite and I see no difference between McInnes' frequent comments on the efficacy of violence and those of Hitler in the early 1920s who also was quite open about his intent to use violence to get his way.
Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
That is not the the Proud Boys in a nut shell. And McInnes quit the group two years ago.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostAnd? Has its ideology suddenly changed?
You seem to be more worried about the rhetoric of one man than the actions of hundreds, if not thousands, of rioters. Why is that?Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
You are speaking of one man who is no longer with the group. You know what their web site says. But I will ask again: Which side is actually acting like Brown Shirts in the streets today? Which side is using violence - looting, attacking government buildings, and burning down businesses?
You seem to be more worried about the rhetoric of one man than the actions of hundreds, if not thousands, of rioters. Why is that?
Hitler referred to Christianity and Christian values in his speeches. Do you consider Hitler to have been a believing Christian?
Nor should we forget that Goebbels and National Socialists joined the Communists in support of a wildcat strike of Berlin transport workers in November 1932. For several days during that strike Communists and the National Socialists ate together on the picket line and side by side threw rocks at strike-breakers, tore up tramline tracks, and built barricades. Privately Hitler was furious that the behaviour of Goebbels and other National Socialists would alienate the middle class voters, but publicly could not criticise the actions of his followers in showing solidarity with the workers.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
A man who considers himself to still in charge of the Proud Boys https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-...-in-real-time/ and nor do I imagine the group's ethos has suddenly completely changed after Tarrio has taken over its leadership.
Hitler referred to Christianity and Christian values in his speeches. Do you consider Hitler to have been a believing Christian?
Nor should we forget that Goebbels and National Socialists joined the Communists in support of a wildcat strike of Berlin transport workers in November 1932. For several days during that strike Communists and the National Socialists ate together on the picket line and side by side threw rocks at strike-breakers, tore up tramline tracks, and built barricades. Privately Hitler was furious that the behaviour of Goebbels and other National Socialists would alienate the middle class voters, but publicly could not criticise the actions of his followers in showing solidarity with the workers.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Hillary Clinton declared that "civility can start again" only after the left seizes control the Senate and White House. IOW, the rioting continues until they get their way.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by seer View Post
Why won't you answer: Which side is actually acting like Brown Shirts in the streets today? Which side is using violence - looting, attacking government buildings, and burning down businesses?"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostHillary Clinton declared that "civility can start again" only after the left seizes control the Senate and White House. IOW, the rioting continues until they get their way."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
That is a matter of perspective, What Americans like yourself and seer consider to be "the left" many over here in Europe would see as centrist/conservative.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThe Democrats have swung far enough to the left in recent years that the Communist Party quit bothering to nominate their own candidate..."My favorite color in the alphabet is three." - Donald J. Trump
"The 'J' in my middle name stands for 'Jenius'" - Donald J. Trump
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