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    An article I have just found concerning parts of Texas.

    The article's title is somewhat hyperbolic but it does raise the question [after recent events in Michigan] why parts of the USA appear unable to provide clean and safe drinking water for local citizens.

    One normally associates poor quality or contaminated drinking water with developing nations. Hence the excellent work of the charity WaterAid. https://www.wateraid.org/us/



    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...eating-microbe

    Texas officials have warned residents of some communities near Houston to stop using tap water because it might be tainted with a deadly brain-eating microbe.

    The Texas Commission on Environmental Quality warned the Brazosport Water Authority late on Friday of the potential contamination of its water supply by Naegleria fowleri.

    The commission issued an advisory warning people not to use tap water for any reason except to flush toilets in Lake Jackson, Freeport, Angleton, Brazoria, Richwood, Oyster Creek, Clute and Rosenberg.

    Those communities are home to about 120,000 people. Also affected are the Dow Chemical works in Freeport, which has 4,200 employees, and the Clemens and Wayne Scott state prison units, which have 2,345 inmates and 655 employees.

    The advisory will remain in place until the Brazosport authority’s water system has been thoroughly flushed and tests on water samples show the system’s water is safe to use. It said in a statement that it was unclear how long it would be before the tap water was safe.

    The Brazosport Water Authority’s water source is the Brazos river.

    Naegleria fowleri is a microscopic amoeba commonly found in warm freshwater and soil, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. It usually infects people when contaminated water enters the body through the nose, from where it travels to the brain and can cause a rare and debilitating disease called primary amebic meningoencephalitis.

    The infection is usually fatal and typically occurs when people go swimming or diving in warm freshwater places such as lakes and rivers. In very rare instances, Naegleria infections may also occur when contaminated water from other sources, such as inadequately chlorinated swimming pool water or heated and contaminated tap water, enters the nose.

    The contamination of US treated public water systems by the microbe is rare but not unheard of. According to the CDC, the first deaths from Naegleria fowleri found in tap water from treated US public drinking water systems occurred in southern Louisiana in 2011 and 2013.

    The microbe was also found in 2003 in an untreated geothermal well-supplied drinking water system in Arizona, as well as in disinfected public drinking water supplies in Australia in the 1970s and 80s and in 2008 in Pakistan.


    "It ain't necessarily so
    The things that you're liable
    To read in the Bible
    It ain't necessarily so
    ."

    Sportin' Life
    Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

  • #2
    All these attacks on the United States! It is really becoming pathological - some kind of deep seated envy? Or the WW2 defeat thing still stings?
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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    • #3
      I don't think the US in any need of foreign aid on almost any issue imaginable. In this case its a matter of the quality of a local water supply, which is solvable. The water supply for some states in the US might in the future require certain technological practices that have already been demonstrated, like salt water desalination, which is a huge source of fresh water in Israel. However for none of these issues do the US need to rely on outside expertise.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by seer View Post
        All these attacks on the United States! It is really becoming pathological - some kind of deep seated envy? Or the WW2 defeat thing still stings?
        Do you perceive any thread that points out out the discrepancies and shortcomings of the USA as constituting some form of existential threat? This Civics board is fixated on the USA and therefore should be receptive to threads that highlight where the USA is deficient.

        Your country is the richest in the world.

        Therefore why is it unable to provide clean safe drinking water for large swathes of its population?
        "It ain't necessarily so
        The things that you're liable
        To read in the Bible
        It ain't necessarily so
        ."

        Sportin' Life
        Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
          I don't think the US in any need of foreign aid on almost any issue imaginable. In this case its a matter of the quality of a local water supply, which is solvable. The water supply for some states in the US might in the future require certain technological practices that have already been demonstrated, like salt water desalination, which is a huge source of fresh water in Israel. However for none of these issues do the US need to rely on outside expertise.
          The thread title was somewhat jocular.

          However, we cannot deny that such issues are rather frequent in the USA aren't they? How often does Denmark have environmental and/or public health issues with life threatening risks in its water supply?
          "It ain't necessarily so
          The things that you're liable
          To read in the Bible
          It ain't necessarily so
          ."

          Sportin' Life
          Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
            An article I have just found concerning parts of Texas.

            The article's title is somewhat hyperbolic but it does raise the question [after recent events in Michigan] why parts of the USA appear unable to provide clean and safe drinking water for local citizens.
            You state unable as if it entirely lacks the ability. Then for evidence you have shown examples where there was a new incidence of contaminated water that is in the process of being fixed. That's the opposite of "unable".

            It's like someone stumbling on a loose carpet and you asking the question why this person is "unable to walk". Your question is pretty much as hyperbolic as you claim the article title is.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

              The thread title was somewhat jocular.

              However, we cannot deny that such issues are rather frequent in the USA aren't they? How often does Denmark have environmental and/or public health issues with life threatening risks in its water supply?
              Are you asking why a country that is 228 time larger than another has a larger number of isolated incidents than the other? Rare events multiplied by large numbers (i.e. # of water treatment facilities) end up being more frequent.

              A little bit of math might help you understand such things.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                Are you asking why a country that is 228 time larger than another
                That is a rather vague comment. Which "another" do you have in mind? Or were you referring to Denmark?

                Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
                has a larger number of isolated incidents than the other?
                That reads more as a form of special pleading for the USA's land mass rather than as a valid reason to explain why the richest country on earth appears to repeatedly offer large swathes of its population unsafe drinking water.

                Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                You state unable as if it entirely lacks the ability. Then for evidence you have shown examples where there was a new incidence of contaminated water that is in the process of being fixed. That's the opposite of "unable".
                This is hardly the first such incident the USA has witnessed. Why do they keep happening?

                "It ain't necessarily so
                The things that you're liable
                To read in the Bible
                It ain't necessarily so
                ."

                Sportin' Life
                Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                  That is a rather vague comment. Which "another" do you have in mind? Or were you referring to Denmark?

                  That reads more as a form of special pleading for the USA's land mass rather than as a valid reason to explain why the richest country on earth appears to repeatedly offer large swathes of its population unsafe drinking water.

                  This is hardly the first such incident the USA has witnessed. Why do they keep happening?
                  Since you are chopping up and mixing posts, and ignoring points made, it's no wonder you are confused.

                  The "another" isn't vague. It was a direct reply to your bringing up Denmark.

                  You also chopped off the part where I mentioned that due to the size difference of the country, the number of water treatment plants is going to be vastly different. Since with enough large numbers, rare events happen more frequently, it's not at all a question about why rare incidents happens in one country vs another when one is more than 200 times the size of the other.

                  We had the same problem when I was in the Navy in Japan. There were around 5-6 ships. One of which was an aircraft carrier. The other ships had 200-300 people, the aircraft carrier had 3000-3500 people. The aircraft carrier had a reputation of being full of troublemakers, because most of the people who were arrested by shore patrol were from the carrier. Again, this is not a surprise since the carrier had more people than the other ships combined. Just by random chance more than half of the troublemakers were going to come from the larger ship.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by seer View Post
                    All these attacks on the United States! It is really becoming pathological - some kind of deep seated envy? Or the WW2 defeat thing still stings?
                    As Glenn Beck once said (before he went off the deep end), "People hate the United States for the same reason baseball fans hate the New York Yankees: they just... keep... winning."
                    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                    Than a fool in the eyes of God


                    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                      Do you perceive any thread that points out out the discrepancies and shortcomings of the USA as constituting some form of existential threat? This Civics board is fixated on the USA and therefore should be receptive to threads that highlight where the USA is deficient.

                      Your country is the richest in the world.

                      Therefore why is it unable to provide clean safe drinking water for large swathes of its population?
                      I have been on these boards for years, I have never, and I mean never, seen such a singled minded attack on the US by a one person. It really is pathological...
                      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                        An article I have just found concerning parts of Texas.

                        The article's title is somewhat hyperbolic but it does raise the question [after recent events in Michigan] why parts of the USA appear unable to provide clean and safe drinking water for local citizens.

                        One normally associates poor quality or contaminated drinking water with developing nations. Hence the excellent work of the charity WaterAid. https://www.wateraid.org/us/



                        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...eating-microbe

                        Texas officials have warned residents of some communities near Houston to stop using tap water because it might be tainted with a deadly brain-eating microbe.

                        The Texas Commission on Environmental Quality warned the Brazosport Water Authority late on Friday of the potential contamination of its water supply by Naegleria fowleri.

                        The commission issued an advisory warning people not to use tap water for any reason except to flush toilets in Lake Jackson, Freeport, Angleton, Brazoria, Richwood, Oyster Creek, Clute and Rosenberg.

                        Those communities are home to about 120,000 people. Also affected are the Dow Chemical works in Freeport, which has 4,200 employees, and the Clemens and Wayne Scott state prison units, which have 2,345 inmates and 655 employees.

                        The advisory will remain in place until the Brazosport authority’s water system has been thoroughly flushed and tests on water samples show the system’s water is safe to use. It said in a statement that it was unclear how long it would be before the tap water was safe.

                        The Brazosport Water Authority’s water source is the Brazos river.

                        Naegleria fowleri is a microscopic amoeba commonly found in warm freshwater and soil, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. It usually infects people when contaminated water enters the body through the nose, from where it travels to the brain and can cause a rare and debilitating disease called primary amebic meningoencephalitis.

                        The infection is usually fatal and typically occurs when people go swimming or diving in warm freshwater places such as lakes and rivers. In very rare instances, Naegleria infections may also occur when contaminated water from other sources, such as inadequately chlorinated swimming pool water or heated and contaminated tap water, enters the nose.

                        The contamination of US treated public water systems by the microbe is rare but not unheard of. According to the CDC, the first deaths from Naegleria fowleri found in tap water from treated US public drinking water systems occurred in southern Louisiana in 2011 and 2013.

                        The microbe was also found in 2003 in an untreated geothermal well-supplied drinking water system in Arizona, as well as in disinfected public drinking water supplies in Australia in the 1970s and 80s and in 2008 in Pakistan.

                        Yes, we need your Water Aid thingy. Is it bottled? We don't want your water though, you've been peeing and pooping in it for thousands of years.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Maranatha View Post

                          Yes, we need your Water Aid thingy. Is it bottled? We don't want your water though, you've been peeing and pooping in it for thousands of years.
                          It is not mine. The USA has its own branch of WaterAid, as the OP indicated - https://www.wateraid.org/us/
                          "It ain't necessarily so
                          The things that you're liable
                          To read in the Bible
                          It ain't necessarily so
                          ."

                          Sportin' Life
                          Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                            Since you are chopping up and mixing posts, and ignoring points made, it's no wonder you are confused.

                            The "another" isn't vague. It was a direct reply to your bringing up Denmark.
                            I did request clarification as to the specific country to which you referred.

                            Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
                            You also chopped off the part where I mentioned that due to the size difference of the country, the number of water treatment plants is going to be vastly different.
                            Why will they be different?

                            Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post
                            Since with enough large numbers, rare events happen more frequently,
                            Why? What logistical reasons are you citing?

                            Originally posted by CivilDiscourse View Post

                            We had the same problem when I was in the Navy in Japan. There were around 5-6 ships. One of which was an aircraft carrier. The other ships had 200-300 people, the aircraft carrier had 3000-3500 people. The aircraft carrier had a reputation of being full of troublemakers, because most of the people who were arrested by shore patrol were from the carrier. Again, this is not a surprise since the carrier had more people than the other ships combined. Just by random chance more than half of the troublemakers were going to come from the larger ship.
                            A somewhat irrelevant comment.

                            "It ain't necessarily so
                            The things that you're liable
                            To read in the Bible
                            It ain't necessarily so
                            ."

                            Sportin' Life
                            Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by seer View Post

                              I have been on these boards for years, I have never, and I mean never, seen such a singled minded attack on the US by a one person. It really is pathological...
                              I am merely citing various newspaper articles that show the deficiencies within the USA. And this board is fixated on the USA.
                              "It ain't necessarily so
                              The things that you're liable
                              To read in the Bible
                              It ain't necessarily so
                              ."

                              Sportin' Life
                              Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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