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  • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

    Good. Let them protest. At least those unborn babies will be alive in the meantime...
    I doubt that. No abortion law has ever saved anything.
    “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
    “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
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    • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post

      I doubt that. No abortion law has ever saved anything.
      False.
      That's what
      - She

      Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
      - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

      I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
      - Stephen R. Donaldson

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      • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

        False.
        They are defacing churches in Poland. There will be some sort of backlash in the US too. You cannot interfere in other people’s private lives without consequences.
        “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
        “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
        “not all there” - you know who you are

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        • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post

          They are defacing churches in Poland. There will be some sort of backlash in the US too. You cannot interfere in other people’s private lives without consequences.
          Defacing churches just makes them look like morons. But some unwanted spraypaint is a small price to pay to protect lives....
          That's what
          - She

          Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
          - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

          I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
          - Stephen R. Donaldson

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          • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post

            I doubt that. No abortion law has ever saved anything.
            Care to wager on that?

            This from another thread where the premise was that laws restricting abortion causes an increase in them...


            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            While increasing the availability of birth control has been shown to decrease the demand for abortions (if you can reduce unintended pregnancies you cut back on the demand for abortions), it seems that they simply tacked on legalizing abortions on to this and then attributed the drop in abortions caused by making birth control more widely available to legalizing abortions as well.

            And speaking of unintended pregnancies and abortion ... there was a pretty large scale study conducted recently with the results published in the British medical journal The Lancet that disclosed that only 48% of unintended pregnancies get aborted in countries where abortion is illegal in contrast to 69% in countries where it is legal. This indicates that many women carry unwanted pregnancies to term in places where abortion is illegal which sharply contradicts any contention that legalizing abortion causes the number of abortions to drop

            And even if it is legal, a study in the late '90s estimated that if public funding of abortion were to be cut roughly 25% of low-income women who otherwise would have aborted their child if the taxpayers footed the bill would instead give birth to the child. This again suggests tighter restrictions do not lead to an increase in abortions.

            Further, after Texas passed legislation in 2013 restricting abortion, which forced the closure of 19 of the 41 clinics in the state, the abortion rate dropped by 13% the following year.

            Also, I recall a study from about 20 years ago that found that legalizing abortion in Spain had no affect on the rate of abortions. The only change was that Spanish women didn't have to go to neighboring country to get it done.


            Hope this helps.

            I'm always still in trouble again

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            • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

              Defacing churches just makes them look like morons. But some unwanted spraypaint is a small price to pay to protect lives....
              .... protect unwanted lives, you mean.
              Last edited by firstfloor; 11-02-2020, 01:19 PM.
              “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
              “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
              “not all there” - you know who you are

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              • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                Care to wager on that?

                This from another thread where the premise was that laws restricting abortion causes an increase in them...

                When abortion is illegal, it is impossible to get accurate statistics about it.

                It’s the start of the Tupping season. I doubt that American women like being treated like farm animals.
                Last edited by firstfloor; 11-02-2020, 01:25 PM.
                “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
                “not all there” - you know who you are

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                • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post

                  When abortion is illegal, it is impossible to get accurate statistics about it.

                  It’s the start of the Tupping season. I doubt that American women like being treated like farm animals.
                  What the left overlooks is that polls conduct over the past couple decades have revealed that it is women more than men who want to see increased restrictions on abortions.

                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                  "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                  • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post

                    .... protect unwanted lives, you mean.
                    How German of you...
                    That's what
                    - She

                    Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                    - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                    I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                    - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                    • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

                      How German of you...
                      And Christians are willing to put their own daughters in danger:
                      A new report from Guttmacher suggests an upward trend in women trying to self-induce; the organization's latest survey on abortion rates, from 2017, found that 18% of nonhospital facilities said they had treated at least one person for an attempted self-induced abortion, up from 12% when the data were last collected, in 2014.

                      Susan Yanow, with the international reproductive advocacy group Women Help Women, is training activists from around the country to provide information about self-induced abortion. She said one project that focuses on self-induced abortion has seen its Web traffic spike in the past couple of years, especially around the time of the confirmation of President's Trump's most recent Supreme Court nominee.

                      "There was a huge jump during the Kavanaugh hearings, when I think people started to really realize that access to clinic-based abortion might be going away in many places," Yanow said. "There has been steady growth even since last summer, when those hearings were taking place."
                      “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                      “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
                      “not all there” - you know who you are

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                      • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post

                        And Christians are willing to put their own daughters in danger:

                        There is a special place in hell for that woman and her "advocacy"
                        That's what
                        - She

                        Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                        - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                        I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                        - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                        • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

                          There is a special place in hell for that woman and her "advocacy"
                          She is a saint among saints. May God bless and preserve her.
                          “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                          “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
                          “not all there” - you know who you are

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                          • Originally posted by firstfloor View Post

                            She is a saint among saints. May God bless and preserve her.
                            She is a murdering dog who needs Jesus in the worst way.
                            That's what
                            - She

                            Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                            - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                            I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                            - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                            • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                              I'm sure your tourism industry is grateful...
                              The tourism industry was initially very upset with the borders being closed, despite people pointing out to them that because people here would have to take their holidays locally rather than internationally that the numbers of increased local tourism would roughly balance out the decreased international tourism. Now that the tourism industry has had some experience of this happening in practice they appear to be less upset because they've discovered those people were right.
                              "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                              "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                              "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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