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  • The Cop-Hater in Chief

    I heard this phrase "The Cop-Hater in Chief" used by Milwaukee Sheriff David Clarke, and wondered if there was actual backup for such a claim.

    I thought that was a bit harsh, but I also believe, and have stated, that Obama has frequently squandered opportunities to bring calm to otherwise volatile situations. In fact, I think he has, essentially, poured gasoline on the fire.

    He promised in his campaigns for office that he would unite America. Today (or was that yesterday?) he actually claimed he didn't believe America was as divided today as "some say".

    A friend sent me an article from PoliZette that attempts to make the case - "Obama's shameful record of anti-police rhetoric stretches back to beginning"

    Source: PoliZette


    From the very beginning of his time in office, President Obama has taken every opportunity possible to undermine and attack law enforcement in this country.

    Now, the president’s record of anti-law-enforcement rhetoric has led in part to the murders of five police officers and the wounding of seven more.

    The president’s record of anti-law-enforcement rhetoric has led in part to the murders of five police officers and the wounding of seven more.

    Anyone who doubts the extent to which Obama’s presidency has been marked by pronounced distaste for police officers — especially white ones — need only look to the litany of ideologically motivated, anti-police statements the president has made since he assumed office.

    When Harvard University professor Henry Louis Gates was arrested on July 16, 2009, outside his home after police received reports of an individual trying to force entry into the house, Obama said the arresting officer, Sgt. James Crowley, “acted stupidly.”

    How his actions were stupid, Obama did not say. Gates, who had lost his keys, was literally breaking into his own home, and Officer Crowley responded to the call. Obama may believe Crowley should have invited Gates out for a round of beers (as Obama did in the infamous “beer summit”) and politely ask him what he was doing, but it’s unlikely most homeowners would want cops to respond to a reported break-in in such a manner.

    After black teenager Trayvon Martin was shot by the overzealous, “White-Hispanic” George Zimmerman — because in Obama’s America Hispanics magically become white people if they shoot a black person — Obama said that, “If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon.”

    Of course, Obama declined to say if his son would have played hooky and assaulted a community watch volunteer, bashing his head repeatedly into the pavement.....

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    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

  • #2
    The thread of a people hater.
    Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
    Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
    But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

    go with the flow the river knows . . .

    Frank

    I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
      The thread of a people hater.
      Somebody peed in your wheaties again, eh, Shuny?
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
        The thread of a people hater.
        You must understand the mentality of these people shuny. By definition if anything bad happens, ANYTHING, it's Obama's fault.
        “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Tassman View Post
          You must understand the mentality of these people shuny. By definition if anything bad happens, ANYTHING, it's Obama's fault.
          I think the point is that rather than helping to heal or calm enraged parties, Obama has the unfortunate history of exacerbating the situation.

          In the Henry Louis Gates situation it was immediately after stating that he didn't have the facts that he turned around and decreed that the police "acted stupidly." I shouldn't have to point out how reckless it is to pronounce a verdict on a case you just said in the breath before that you don't know what happened.

          A much more egregious case of agitating a situation that was already a tinderbox was after the 2014 shooting of Michael Brown (the supposed "gentle giant" who just robbed a store and decided to attack the police officer that was responded to the call), in Ferguson, Missouri. The Obama Administration came up with the bright idea of allowing race warlord Al Sharpton to be their contact and conduit of information there. That was an epic lack of judgment to be kind.

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • #6
            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            I think the point is that rather than helping to heal or calm enraged parties, Obama has the unfortunate history of exacerbating the situation.

            In the Henry Louis Gates situation it was immediately after stating that he didn't have the facts that he turned around and decreed that the police "acted stupidly." I shouldn't have to point out how reckless it is to pronounce a verdict on a case you just said in the breath before that you don't know what happened.

            A much more egregious case of agitating a situation that was already a tinderbox was after the 2014 shooting of Michael Brown (the supposed "gentle giant" who just robbed a store and decided to attack the police officer that was responded to the call), in Ferguson, Missouri. The Obama Administration came up with the bright idea of allowing race warlord Al Sharpton to be their contact and conduit of information there. That was an epic lack of judgment to be kind.
            Obama's role as president is to identify the problem and suggest solutions. In this instance, as so often, Obama correctly identifies the problem as the high level of structural and institutional racism within the police forces. This has been the problem throughout and needs to be addressed. E.g. "The Justice Department's conclusion that the city of Ferguson, Mo., routinely violates the constitutional rights of African Americans validates the claims of racial injustice long made by black residents..." In short, Obama is doing his job.

            http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-ed-...305-story.html
            “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Tassman View Post
              You must understand the mentality of these people shuny. By definition if anything bad happens, ANYTHING, it's Obama's fault.
              No, goofy - it's BUSH's fault! You all know that!
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                I think the point is that rather than helping to heal or calm enraged parties, Obama has the unfortunate history of exacerbating the situation.
                EGGzackly

                In the Henry Louis Gates situation it was immediately after stating that he didn't have the facts that he turned around and decreed that the police "acted stupidly." I shouldn't have to point out how reckless it is to pronounce a verdict on a case you just said in the breath before that you don't know what happened.

                A much more egregious case of agitating a situation that was already a tinderbox was after the 2014 shooting of Michael Brown (the supposed "gentle giant" who just robbed a store and decided to attack the police officer that was responded to the call), in Ferguson, Missouri. The Obama Administration came up with the bright idea of allowing race warlord Al Sharpton to be their contact and conduit of information there. That was an epic lack of judgment to be kind.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                  Obama's role as president is to identify the problem and suggest solutions. In this instance, as so often, Obama correctly identifies the problem as the high level of structural and institutional racism within the police forces. This has been the problem throughout and needs to be addressed. E.g. "The Justice Department's conclusion that the city of Ferguson, Mo., routinely violates the constitutional rights of African Americans validates the claims of racial injustice long made by black residents..." In short, Obama is doing his job.

                  http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-ed-...305-story.html
                  He didn't campaign as the "identifier of problems" but as the fixer of the disunity. He promised to unite America. But, then again, he promised we could keep our doctors and our health plans.
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                    Obama's role as president is to identify the problem and suggest solutions.
                    Which he routinely fails at both...

                    In this instance, as so often, Obama correctly identifies the problem as the high level of structural and institutional racism within the police forces.
                    A lie that has been debunked more times than I can count.

                    This has been the problem throughout and needs to be addressed. E.g. "The Justice Department's conclusion that the city of Ferguson, Mo., routinely violates the constitutional rights of African Americans validates the claims of racial injustice long made by black residents..."
                    Eric Holder's racist screed against white police officers in Ferguson doing their jobs in an area where blacks commit a ridiculously disproportionate amount of the total crimes... yeah... THAT'S some quality evidence there...

                    In short, Obama is doing his job.

                    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-ed-...305-story.html
                    Source: http://www.colorofcrime.com/2016/03/the-color-of-crime-2016-revised-edition/


                    Police, in particular, are often accused of racial bias, but is it really plausible that they arrest blacks they know are innocent but ignore white criminals? A 2008 summary of earlier research compared the races of offenders as identified by victims to the races of perpetrators arrested by the police and found that “the odds of arrest for whites were 22 percent higher for robbery, 13 percent higher for aggravated assault, and 9 percent higher for simple assault than they were for blacks, whereas there were no differences for forcible rape.”

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                    That's what
                    - She

                    Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                    - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                    I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                    - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                    • #11
                      Obama needs to just stay out of local matters. Him getting involved makes it into a national issue. he causes the divisions.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                        Obama's role as president is to identify the problem and suggest solutions. In this instance, as so often, Obama correctly identifies the problem as the high level of structural and institutional racism within the police forces. This has been the problem throughout and needs to be addressed. E.g. "The Justice Department's conclusion that the city of Ferguson, Mo., routinely violates the constitutional rights of African Americans validates the claims of racial injustice long made by black residents..." In short, Obama is doing his job.

                        http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-ed-...305-story.html
                        It seems that he is anything but correct in many of his shoot from the lip pronouncements (which often come with the caveat that he doesn't have all the facts) in the either grand juries or regular juries decide that this wasn't the case. The Ferguson example is the most glaring example. The so-called "Gentle Giant" who wouldn't hurt a fly had just committed a strong armed robbery and then violently attacked the police officer that responded to the call.

                        The entire "Hands up don't shoot" turned out to be nothing more than a hoax. Yet Obama allowed one of the most racially divisive characters in the country, Al Sharpton (of Tawana Brawley, Crown Heights riot and Freddie's Fashion Mart infamy) to act as an unofficial White House representative on the scene, sent several people to the thug's funeral and his Attorney General Eric Holder kept threatening to prosecute Wilson on federal charges until the overwhelming evidence forced him to grudgingly backtrack.
                        Last edited by rogue06; 07-10-2016, 10:34 AM.

                        I'm always still in trouble again

                        "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                        "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                        "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                          Which he routinely fails at both...



                          A lie that has been debunked more times than I can count.



                          Eric Holder's racist screed against white police officers in Ferguson doing their jobs in an area where blacks commit a ridiculously disproportionate amount of the total crimes... yeah... THAT'S some quality evidence there...



                          Source: http://www.colorofcrime.com/2016/03/the-color-of-crime-2016-revised-edition/


                          Police, in particular, are often accused of racial bias, but is it really plausible that they arrest blacks they know are innocent but ignore white criminals? A 2008 summary of earlier research compared the races of offenders as identified by victims to the races of perpetrators arrested by the police and found that “the odds of arrest for whites were 22 percent higher for robbery, 13 percent higher for aggravated assault, and 9 percent higher for simple assault than they were for blacks, whereas there were no differences for forcible rape.”

                          © Copyright Original Source

                          But, when you put on your "everything's about race" glasses, it all seems so right!
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            It seems that he is anything but correct in many of his shoot from the lip pronouncements (which often come with the caveat that he doesn't have all the facts) in the either grand juries or regular juries decide that this wasn't the case. The Ferguson example is the most glaring example. The so-called "Gentle Giant" who wouldn't hurt a fly had just committed a strong armed robbery and then violently attacked the police officer that responded to the call.

                            The entire "Hands up don't shoot" turned out to be nothing more than a hoax. Yet Obama allowed one of the most racially divisive characters in the country, Al Sharpton (of Tawana Brawley, Crown Heights riot and Freddie's Fashion Mart infamy) to act as an unofficial White House representative on the scene, sent several people to the thug's funeral and his Attorney General Eric Holder kept threatening to prosecute Wilson on federal charges until the overwhelming evidence forced him to grudgingly backtrack.
                            The article I linked to in the OP goes through his history of being wrong on these buttdumb knee-jerk pronouncements.
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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