School ‘Correct’ to Ban U.S. Flag T-Shirts for Campus Safety

[Cow Poke]

What makes patriotism "poison"?

Envy.

[Bill the Cat]

Not from what I can tell. But couldn't say for sure.

So, one American Flag is ok, but others aren't?

[Cow Poke]

So, one American Flag is ok, but others aren't?

I've got the American flag AND the Texas flag on the front of my house, along with the "We Don't Call 911" sign.

[Darth Executor]

I like how it looked like you were defending against accusations of racism, then you launched into the white supremacist rant. That was the best bit.

I don't understand how anyone could possibly get "white supremacy" from my rant, which was clearly arguing for Mexican inferiority. It's particularly bizarre when it's fairly well known that I primarily blame certain white people for much of the unnecessary ethnic strife both in America and other countries with stupid immigration policies. If I was declared World Fuhrer my gulags and gallows would have the ethnic ratio of a Klan convention* the New York Times employee roster.

But hey, if you want to link up race and culture as innately tied to each other, you might as well slap on a Klan hood because it would be a de facto assertion that some races are also inferior.

*please fix strike tags, my posts just aren't the same without them

[Darth Executor]

What makes patriotism "poison"?

Chrs is the unwitting manservant of a globalist cabal that tries to destroy all bonds between people (starting with the family) so that their only loyalty is to mainstream political ideologies (which they control) and impotent deviant political ideologies (which they also mostly control).

[Carrikature]

What makes patriotism "poison"?

Depends on how it's used. Mostly it reinforces an us vs them mentality and can potentially blind citizens to the ills of their culture.

[Jedidiah]

I don't understand how anyone could possibly get "white supremacy" from my rant, which was clearly arguing for Mexican inferiority.

That was my thought exactly when I read his post.

[Cow Poke]

Depends on how it's used. Mostly it reinforces an us vs them mentality and can potentially blind citizens to the ills of their culture.

"Patriotism" worked well for Britain in the 1940's, but that was way before Chrs arrived on the planet, and is why English is not his second language.



(CP is, of course, being facetious. kinda)

[Outis]

That was my thought exactly when I read his post.

Ah ... so a claim that one group is inferior is _not_ a claim that another group is superior. Got it!

[Zymologist]

Depends on how it's used. Mostly it reinforces an us vs them mentality and can potentially blind citizens to the ills of their culture.

This seems odd to me. Do you have a problem with someone displaying a flag on their house? Or, say, going to a 4th of July party? Or simply saying the words, "I'm proud to be an American"?

[Darth Executor]

Ah ... so a claim that one group is inferior is _not_ a claim that another group is superior. Got it!

Superiority and supremacy are not the same thing. I could believe "white people" are superior to Mexicans and still not be a white supremacist, though the comparison is bizarre because Mexican isn't a race. And frankly, if I had to pick a superior race it would probably be East Asians (Japanese and Koreans in particular). They have all the benefits of the best white countries with a lot less of the retardation. People like you and Chrs have permanently inoculated me from the possibility of white supremacy. Looks like Idioutis is trying hard to live up to the name I baptized him with.

[Outis]

A bit more to the story: http://www.snopes.com/politics/immig...flagshirts.asp (Warning: language alert)

It seems the Mexican students are NOT allowed to wear Mexican flags, nor was there any special recognition of Cinco de Mayo by the school.

[Carrikature]

"Patriotism" worked well for Britain in the 1940's, but that was way before Chrs arrived on the planet, and is why English is not his second language.

(CP is, of course, being facetious. kinda)

Patriotism and its corollary, nationalism, have served plenty of countries well in their time. There's a reason I said "depends on how it's used".

This seems odd to me. Do you have a problem with someone displaying a flag on their house? Or, say, going to a 4th of July party? Or simply saying the words, "I'm proud to be an American"?

Eh, it needs more fleshing out. The first two are more cultural traditions than necessarily expressions of personal feelings (can be both). The last one can bother me quite a bit, depending on the usage. Post 9/11 the phrase was widely used to the point of "you're not a Real American unless". Cue the Dixie Chicks debacle. I can't tell you how many times I've heard Texas supremacy comments that are basically the same attitude. "Texas could be its own country!" and "we should secede!" get old in a hurry. My sister is probably one of the worst I know. According to her, anything worth seeing exists somewhere in the U.S. Forget the Himalayas or the Alps, we have the Rockies. Forget the Caribbean, we have the Gulf coast. Asia is (and I quote) "probably dirty, probably smells bad, I probably won't like the food and I see no point in going." She has (or did) a Texas flag toothbrush holder, a Texas flag shower curtain and a Texas flag bath rug.

Don't get me wrong. I would hope everyone has affection for their country. Without that, the country will go down the tubes. There's a point where affection turns into fanaticism, and I don't think that's a good thing. That point is closer than you might think, too. I saw that first hand right after 9/11. As I said, it depends on how it's used.

[Cow Poke]

Patriotism and its corollary, nationalism, have served plenty of countries well in their time. There's a reason I said "depends on how it's used".

Yeah, it's just that "other end" of this is "Blame America first".

[Bill the Cat]

A bit more to the story: http://www.snopes.com/politics/immig...flagshirts.asp (Warning: language alert)

It seems the Mexican students are NOT allowed to wear Mexican flags, nor was there any special recognition of Cinco de Mayo by the school.

Uh, according to Snopes, yes it was a "special event" recognized by the school:

This case arose out of the events of May 5, 2010, Cinco de Mayo, at Live Oak High School ("Live Oak" or "the School"), part of the Morgan Hill Unified School District in Northern California. The Cinco de Mayo celebration was presented in the "spirit of cultural appreciation." It was described as honoring "the pride and community strength of the Mexican people who settled this valley and who continue to work here." The school likened it to St. Patrick's Day or Oktoberfest. The material facts are not in dispute.
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/immig...kYtM4wveVzb.99