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The unwell fall of Falwell
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostPerhaps the closest would be Charles (who was also a president of the SBC at one point) and Andy Stanley of the First Baptist Church of Atlanta. While there is something about them that seems kind off off-putting, I've never heard of any sort of controversy or scandal surrounding either.
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When everything quietly goes well we never hear about it.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostHuh. I had never heard of Andy. When Charles was divorced by his wife, the two had a falling out, but it seems they eventually patched things up.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostPerhaps the closest would be Charles (who was also a president of the SBC at one point) and Andy Stanley of the First Baptist Church of Atlanta. While there is something about them that seems kind off off-putting, I've never heard of any sort of controversy or scandal surrounding either.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostI'm trying to think of an instance where it DID go well, but coming up blank.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Unfortunately, the whole "sons of the fathers inheriting religious fiefdoms" doesn't seem to go so well.
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostI agree this appears to be a violation of this passage, though I wonder what would happen if Christians widely followed it. Likely unscrupulous businessmen would be posing as Christians to defraud Christians, sort of like how a few people have robbed the Amish knowing they won't resist.
I have heard some Christians say that if one party isn't acting like a Christian, then it doesn't apply. That doesn't make sense. If we're talking lawsuits, then by definition, at least one party is going to be acting poorly to begin with; so in that case, there would be no need for Paul to issue that warning.
JP Holding wrote about this passage here, and argued it does not apply to modern Christians necessarily: https://www.tektonics.org/af/brotherlaw.php (I don't necessarily agree; one thing that is noted is that lawsuits would bring shame on the faith. A very public lawsuit like this, which is closely being watched throughout the nation, certainly brings shame on Christianity. Falwell's abhorrent behavior in recent years has been shameful enough.)
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Originally posted by Faber View Post
That would be Falwell Jr. From what I have been reading, I really question whether or not he is a Christian. And apparently I am not the only one here that feels that way.
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostHow does the Liberty U. lawsuit comport with 1 Cor. 6:1-11?
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Originally posted by Faber View PostI imagine that passage only applies to Christians.
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I agree this appears to be a violation of this passage, though I wonder what would happen if Christians widely followed it. Likely unscrupulous businessmen would be posing as Christians to defraud Christians, sort of like how a few people have robbed the Amish knowing they won't resist.
I have heard some Christians say that if one party isn't acting like a Christian, then it doesn't apply. That doesn't make sense. If we're talking lawsuits, then by definition, at least one party is going to be acting poorly to begin with; so in that case, there would be no need for Paul to issue that warning.
JP Holding wrote about this passage here, and argued it does not apply to modern Christians necessarily: https://www.tektonics.org/af/brotherlaw.php (I don't necessarily agree; one thing that is noted is that lawsuits would bring shame on the faith. A very public lawsuit like this, which is closely being watched throughout the nation, certainly brings shame on Christianity. Falwell's abhorrent behavior in recent years has been shameful enough.)
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The unwell fall of Falwell
How does the Liberty U. lawsuit comport with 1 Cor. 6:1-11?
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