Stellar and Planetary Evolution

[pancreasman]

Wise words. Where did you learn this?

Learn what? A cliche?

I'm really not trying to be snarky. Your questions reveal a very low level of science education. That's ok, I can't do brain surgery. But if I was really interested in brain surgery I'd study up on it first.

[Pytharchimedes]

Learn what? A cliche?

I'm really not trying to be snarky. Your questions reveal a very low level of science education. That's ok, I can't do brain surgery. But if I was really interested in brain surgery I'd study up on it first.

Well, my questions, my pictorials, nor, were my presented drawings related to "brain surgery". I am very concerned about your belief displayed in the saying "Teach a man to fish' and so on", this holds more water than you care to drink...tell me more about it.

Are you saying you teach me how to fish by throwing a website in front of me? Then you are the same as those that spit out scripture as the word of God.

Answer my questions, then, you will feed me.

My first one is, do you feel for the spiral or the circle? Which is more perfect? In your respected opinion?

[pancreasman]

Well, my questions, my pictorials, nor were my presented drawings related to "brain surgery". I am very concerned about your belief displayed in the saying "Teach a man to fish' and so on", this holds more water than you care to drink...tell me more about it.

Are you saying you teach me how to fish by throwing a website in front of me? Then you are the same as those that spit out scripture as the word of God.

Answer my questions, then, you will feed me.

My first one is, do you feel for the spiral or the circle? Which is more perfect? In your respected opinion?

Sigh. I'm getting a terrible 'Yoda' feeling about you.

I taught high school physics in Australia. I did not teach it as a series of facts or received wisdom. Every reasonable physics course does the same, helping students to arrive at their own understanding, thinking critically and based on experiment. I'm suggesting that there is a long road ahead for you in understanding introductory physics. That's great if you want to do that. There are lots of great resources these days illustrating physics concepts.

I don't think a forum like this is the best venue for teaching and learning physics. It's too limited. That's why I suggested these other avenues. If you don't want to take them that's fine with me.

[Pytharchimedes]

I taught high school physics in Australia. I did not teach it as a series of facts or received wisdom. Every reasonable physics course does the same, helping students to arrive at their own understanding

Commendable, yet, you still dodge my simple question, which of these mathematical designs are more appeasing to the mind?

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Have you not developed a geometric sensibility? Why not just say which is most appealing to your mathematical nature?

Thinking critically and based on experiment. I'm suggesting that there is a long road ahead for you in understanding introductory physics. That's great if you want to do that. There are lots of great resources these days illustrating physics concepts. I don't think a forum like this is the best venue for teaching and learning physics. It's too limited. That's why I suggested these other avenues. If you don't want to take them that's fine with me.

You might thinks my questions are dumb, but at least address where my stupidity lies? That is the least you could do.

Here is the challenge, label the previous geometric shapes in order of their perfection? Can you do it? Or will you say its impossible?

[pancreasman]

Commendable, yet, you still dodge my simple question, which of these mathematical designs are more appeasing to the mind?

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Have you not developed a geometric sensibility?

Lol, you're laying it on a bit thick. But ... it depends on the observer and their knowledge. Each figure has some interesting mathematics to it.

[Pytharchimedes]

Lol, you're laying it on a bit thick. But ... it depends on the observer and their knowledge. Each figure has some interesting mathematics to it.

Can you just tell me which is the most perfect in your own mind? Or, is that to hard for you?

Labeling the level of perfection would be even better, from 1-5? please try?

[pancreasman]

Can you just tell me which is the most perfect in your own mind? Or, is that to hard for you?

Labeling the level of perfection would be even better, from 1-5? please try?

No, your question makes no sense to me. I can perceive the unique beauty in each mathematical shape. Your question is based on the premise that there is a competition in beauty. There is not.

[Roy]

My first one is, do you feel for the spiral or the circle? Which is more perfect? In your respected opinion?

'Perfect', like 'unique', 'non-existent' and 'pregnant', is an absolute adjective - something either is or is not perfect, there are no shades or gradations of perfectness, and one item cannot be more perfect than another.

Roy

[Duragizer]

Sigh. I'm getting a terrible 'Yoda' feeling about you.

As long as she doesn't turn into a bouncing CG frog with a green glowstick, we should be fine.

[Yttrium]

This one is bester:

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[pancreasman]

I'm kinda partial to these:

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[Duragizer]

But the heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked. Who can know it?

[Pytharchimedes]

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These are beautiful.

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But indeed, this is beautifuller.

I must apologize to myself for derailing my own thread. Truthfully, it was the fault of my good friend Jameson, he put me up to it!

[Pytharchimedes]

Something interesting to think about...while we talked about these two beautiful graphs;

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The Archimedean Spiral/Newton's Theory of Ovals;

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and the Non-Simple Sine Wave.



We were looking at a similar image, from a different perspective.

[pancreasman]

Your middle graph is not a simple sine wave.