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  • #16
    Originally posted by rwatts View Post
    Well I staggered out of bed at around 2:30 for the usual nightly trip. Went back to bed and tossed and turned for a bit, but had to get up and see what had happened, if anything. I was just it time to see the final confirmation come through, that it had landed. Sleep came more easily after that.
    It's not over yet: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-30026398
    "But the news about the harpoons has cast a pall over the celebrations. Scientists will now take a decision on whether to re-fire them.
    Scientists believe Philae was in a stable configuration when they last had contact with the probe. But they have now lost radio "visibility" and will only re-establish contact on Thursday."
    “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
    “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
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    • #17
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      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #18
        Now apparently the question is whether it bounced once.
        O Gladsome Light of the Holy Glory of the Immortal Father, Heavenly, Holy, Blessed Jesus Christ! Now that we have come to the setting of the sun and behold the light of evening, we praise God Father, Son and Holy Spirit. For meet it is at all times to worship Thee with voices of praise. O Son of God and Giver of Life, therefore all the world doth glorify Thee.

        A neat video of dead languages!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
          It's not over yet: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-30026398
          "But the news about the harpoons has cast a pall over the celebrations. Scientists will now take a decision on whether to re-fire them.
          Scientists believe Philae was in a stable configuration when they last had contact with the probe. But they have now lost radio "visibility" and will only re-establish contact on Thursday."
          I hope, before they decide to fire the harpoons, that they take at least one picture and have a couple of sniffs to find out what kind of chemicals are there. I'm worried that if they fire the harpoons, the might bounce the probe and do something terrible.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by rwatts View Post
            I hope, before they decide to fire the harpoons, that they take at least one picture and have a couple of sniffs to find out what kind of chemicals are there. I'm worried that if they fire the harpoons, the might bounce the probe and do something terrible.
            http://sploid.gizmodo.com/comet-land...der-1657715708
            “However, we are not sure about its state. It may even be upside down after bouncing not once but twice. Telemetry seems to indicate that it has landed three times.”

            “The worse than optimal case scenario is that the ice screws are not secured, so they wouldn't be able to use the drill. They need to be secured to the surface for this, says ESA. The other mission objectives could be accomplished in this situation.”
            “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
            “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
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            • #21
              Big bounce, off target, dark place, lack of solar power, not held down, cannot drill. All in all much less successful than first thought.
              “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
              “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
              “not all there” - you know who you are

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              • #22
                Update on CNN -- calling it a success.

                Link contains video...

                Source: CNN

                CNN) -- This week's historic space probe landing on a comet 310 million miles from Earth wasn't exactly a poetic ballet, but it still worked.

                Anchoring harpoons that were supposed to deploy when the Philae probe made impact didn't, lander manager Stephane Ulamec said Thursday.

                The lander also came with screws to burrow into the surface. They didn't work either.
                It made for a bouncy landing. Ulamec said Philae bounced three times before coming to a stop.

                Not pretty, but still the lander came to rest on solid group. A success anyway you look at it.

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                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • #23
                  While all the cable news networks interrupted their regular coverage to report on this and a Reuters news report describes concerns that the harpoons designed to keep Philae anchored to the comet failed to deploy meaning that the lander may end up drifting off into space -- leave it to the Twitterverse and Erin Brodwin with Business Insider to hone in on the important things.

                  Source: Rosetta Scientist Pisses Off Twitter With A Shirt Covered In Half-Naked Women


                  All of humanity made history today by landing a spacecraft on a comet.

                  Unfortunately, many of the women following that development — and a few men, too — were made to feel pretty unwelcome in the space exploration sphere when one of the people leading the mission decided to show up to talk about it wearing a shirt covered in dozens of half-naked women.


                  Source

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                  Yup. One of the scientists involved in the project Dr. Matt Taylor, who sports "full sleeve" tattoos and has as The Telegraph puts it, a "colourful dress sense," wore a Hawaiian shirt which has sparked outrage in some quarters.

                  The article in Business Insider shows some of the Tweets that includes pictures and quotes one using language unsuitable for Tweb (be forewarned) such as this from Rose Eveleth who writes:

                  No no women are toooootally welcome in our community, just ask the dude in this shirt. youtube.com/watch?v=NSv6ZBZtzRA&feature=youtu.be...

                  00000pisseswomen.jpg

                  The article then continues with

                  Source:


                  Contrast the feeling you get seeing this guy in a shirt that objectifies women to this image from the Mars mission control room in India when that country launched its first orbiter to the Red Planet earlier this year.

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                  And shows several Indian women celebrating.

                  The article finishes with

                  Source:


                  Interestingly, Taylor recently participated in a live online chat with the Wall Street Journal in which he was asked how he gained acceptance in such a respected field while sporting sleeve-length tattoos.

                  He responded, "The people I work with don't judge me by my looks but only by the work I have done and can do. Simple."

                  If only women could hope to someday be judged that way too.

                  We reached out to the European Space Agency for comment and will update this post if we hear back.

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                  Hopefully the comment they receive from the ESA is to get a life.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                    Big bounce, off target, dark place, lack of solar power, not held down, cannot drill. All in all much less successful than first thought.
                    It is still quite a feat...
                    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by seer View Post
                      It is still quite a feat...
                      Quite so. Interesting composite here: https://twitter.com/genetics_blog/st...443392/photo/1
                      One leg pointing skyward apparently.
                      Last edited by firstfloor; 11-13-2014, 09:40 AM.
                      “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                      “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
                      “not all there” - you know who you are

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
                        Quite so. Interesting composite here: https://twitter.com/genetics_blog/st...443392/photo/1
                        One leg pointing skyward apparently.
                        Which direction is skyward?
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by cow poke View Post
                          which direction is skyward?

                          lol....
                          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                            Which direction is skyward?
                            Reminds me of the courtroom scene where the attorney was demanding to know from Rooster Cogburn.....

                            Attorney: Mister Cogburn, what direction were you moving when you were backing up.
                            Cogburn: BACKWARDS! I ALWAYS move backwards when I'm backing up!
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #29
                              First photo from the surface. One leg of the lander is visible

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                              • #30
                                The battery has a fairly short life unless the solar cells can recharge it. They are forced to take a risk.

                                “But the team has decided to operate another moving instrument, named Mupus, on Thursday evening. This could cause Philae to shift, but calculations show that it would be in a direction that could improve the amount of sunlight falling on the probe. A change in angle of only a few degrees could help. A new panoramic image will be taken after the Mupus deployment to see if there has been any movement.”

                                http://www.theguardian.com/science/2...ns-esa-rosetta
                                “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
                                “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
                                “not all there” - you know who you are

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