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    To follow up on "Mossrose's" thread... it is possible that YECs don't understand science at all?

    It's election season here in the States. Ergo, this is relevant question.

    Why could anyone with a modicum of knowledge of geology, astronomy, or physics still be a YEC?

    Science describes HOW things work. In geology, at the very least, you have superposition -- so when lithified strata are tilted, somethin' must've gone on.

    I don't care about niggling genetic specifics -- I want to concentrate on the obvious. Since I have a geology background (BTW you innocent YECs should drive around country and look at stuff).

    How do you kids explain Hutton's observation of the strata in the Jedburg strata?

    Hmmm...? Well, how do you? I want you to cogitate.

    K54

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    Originally posted by klaus54 View Post
    To follow up on "Mossrose's" thread... it is possible that YECs don't understand science at all?

    It's election season here in the States. Ergo, this is relevant question.

    Why could anyone with a modicum of knowledge of geology, astronomy, or physics still be a YEC?

    Science describes HOW things work. In geology, at the very least, you have superposition -- so when lithified strata are tilted, somethin' must've gone on.

    I don't care about niggling genetic specifics -- I want to concentrate on the obvious. Since I have a geology background (BTW you innocent YECs should drive around country and look at stuff).

    How do you kids explain Hutton's observation of the strata in the Jedburg strata?

    Hmmm...? Well, how do you? I want you to cogitate.

    K54

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    Something I'm always asking creationists is how do they tell the difference between a rock that was created, from one that was formed in the Flood from one that was formed naturally (assuming the Flood is not considered a natural event).

    No answer to date.

    The presence of fossils cannot be the answer because the rocks could have been created like that. Besides, no one was there to see that those patterns in the rocks are the remains of animals that were once alive to know that anything living died and subsequently got turned into rock. Those two arguments are simply replaying oft made creationist arguments back onto creationists.

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      Originally posted by rwatts View Post
      Something I'm always asking creationists is how do they tell the difference between a rock that was created, from one that was formed in the Flood from one that was formed naturally (assuming the Flood is not considered a natural event).

      No answer to date.

      The presence of fossils cannot be the answer because the rocks could have been created like that. Besides, no one was there to see that those patterns in the rocks are the remains of animals that were once alive to know that anything living died and subsequently got turned into rock. Those two arguments are simply replaying oft made creationist arguments back onto creationists.
      Thanks, rwatts!

      It's the old "Wuz u dere, Charley." excuse.

      I'd love to have Mossrose or Jorge or "Mr." Black or Cerebrum000 or my dear friend JordanFluss weigh in here.

      I know, I know, --- I'll probably get the "I'm not gonna answer 'cuz you're using invectives" excuse."

      But it's worth a try.

      K54

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