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Originally posted by phank View PostThis is wrong on several counts. First, he has no evidence of any sort of pathogen, not even indirectly. Second, the genetic proposal has certainly not been disproved, anymore than the pathogen proposal. Lack of evidence isn't disproof. Third, there have been other proposals currently being tested both directly (looking for causes) and indirectly (looking for statistical patterns.)It's not impossible that a pathogen is involved, anymore than it's impossible that God's Will is involved. But neither can be proved yet.
Meanwhile the pathogen proposal is not, as far as I know, being studied, but is consistent with the data we do have available.
The homophobia arises from using such terms as disorders and pathology to describe a normal, permanent aspect of human variation.
Just because a variation is in the minority doesn't make it pathological.
That was the purpose of the handedness comment, by the way. There was a time, within living memory, when being left-handed WAS regarded as a disorder to be cured. Hopefully, the sinisterphobes have vanished."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostIndividual examples don't mean anything, it's why we work with high sample sizes whenever possible. Nobody is claiming there is a 100% correlation between date of birth and personality.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by phank View PostThe irony of this post is kind of striking. • Edited by a Moderator •Last edited by Littlejoe; 10-23-2014, 03:49 PM.
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Also, phank, complaining about moderation in the thread is also a no no. You are in danger of additional moderation. Cool it, is my suggestion.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostLeft handedness doesn't lead to bloody colons, AIDS epidemics, raping teenagers and a slew of other mental and social issues as far as I know. Though the incovenience is probably enough that it can be cured with a trivial treatment there's no reason not to do it.
Bloody colons are the result of anal sex, whether or not a person is homosexual. Certainly you're not implying that homosexuals are the only ones who have anal sex?
AIDS epidemics were largely fostered by unprotected sex and sharing hypodermic needles, whether or not the persons involved were homosexual. Certainly you're not implying that homosexuals are the only ones with AIDS?
The rape of teenagers is a matter of pedophilia and violence, whether or not the rapist is homosexual. Certainly you're not implying that only homosexuals rape teenagers?"[Mathematics] is the revealer of every genuine truth, for it knows every hidden secret, and bears the key to every subtlety of letters; whoever, then, has the effrontery to pursue physics while neglecting mathematics should know from the start he will never make his entry through the portals of wisdom."
--Thomas Bradwardine, De Continuo (c. 1325)
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Originally posted by Boxing Pythagoras View PostHomosexuality doesn't lead to bloody colons, AIDS epidemics, or raping teenagers, either.
Bloody colons are the result of anal sex, whether or not a person is homosexual. Certainly you're not implying that homosexuals are the only ones who have anal sex?
AIDS epidemics were largely fostered by unprotected sex and sharing hypodermic needles, whether or not the persons involved were homosexual. Certainly you're not implying that homosexuals are the only ones with AIDS?
The rape of teenagers is a matter of pedophilia and violence, whether or not the rapist is homosexual. Certainly you're not implying that only homosexuals rape teenagers?"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post"[Mathematics] is the revealer of every genuine truth, for it knows every hidden secret, and bears the key to every subtlety of letters; whoever, then, has the effrontery to pursue physics while neglecting mathematics should know from the start he will never make his entry through the portals of wisdom."
--Thomas Bradwardine, De Continuo (c. 1325)
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Originally posted by phank View PostThe homophobia arises from using such terms as disorders and pathology to describe a normal, permanent aspect of human variation. Just because a variation is in the minority doesn't make it pathological. That was the purpose of the handedness comment, by the way. There was a time, within living memory, when being left-handed WAS regarded as a disorder to be cured. Hopefully, the sinisterphobes have vanished.
You're quite happy to stretch language almost to the breaking point (advancing a theory on the cause of homosexuality is 'homophobia') yet whine when others use "...terms such as disorders and pathology...".
Strain at gnats much?...>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...
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Originally posted by Boxing Pythagoras View PostCertainly you're not implying that homosexuals are the only ones with AIDS?Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Jedidiah View PostThey make up the majority of cases.
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Originally posted by Darth Executor View PostLeft handedness doesn't lead to bloody colons, AIDS epidemics, raping teenagers and a slew of other mental and social issues as far as I know.
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MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
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Originally posted by Roy View PostQuite so. Catholicism does that.
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Originally posted by Roy View PostQuite so. Catholicism does that.
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