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  • Originally posted by klaus54 View Post
    Well, Dear -- sometimes the Truth stings.

    And I'm interested in Truth.

    I believe nature IS Creation, and logic a la scientific method is the way it is known beyond the aesthetic and faerie tale.

    You apparently don't.

    If the pursuit of richness of Truth evidenced in the stars and strata and silica makes me a jerk in your eyes, so be it.

    But...

    K54~
    I don't have a problem with the message.

    Its the messenger
    To say that crony capitalism is not true/free market capitalism, is like saying a grand slam is not true baseball, or like saying scoring a touchdown is not true American football ...Stefan Mykhaylo D

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    • Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
      I don't have a problem with the message.

      Its the messenger
      Whatever THAT means.

      98% of Christendom will worship tomorrow morning blithely unaware of JR-JORGE BIBLE-GOD YECism.

      And you should too.

      Now about those Appalachian Cyclothems....

      Nah, forget it. You wouldn't understand anyway.

      K54

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      • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
        Nothing of substance. Just a giant ad hominem. Par the course for you, isn't it?
        You wouldn't recognize "substance" if it jumped into your arms and called you "mommy".

        Now, shoo ... shoo !!!

        Jorge

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        • Originally posted by Jorge View Post
          You wouldn't recognize "substance" if it jumped into your arms and called you "mommy".

          Now, shoo ... shoo !!!

          Jorge
          Did you Google "Appalachian Cyclothems" yet?

          They are definitely in the category of "substance".

          How do they fit in with your ideology?

          Were I to start a thread on cyclothems and transgression-regression sequences, would you be willing to participate?

          K54

          P.S. OK, if you're too lazy to look it up, here's a linky-poo:

          http://geology.geoscienceworld.org/c...2/152.abstract

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          • Originally posted by Jorge View Post
            You wouldn't recognize "substance" if it jumped into your arms and called you "mommy".

            Now, shoo ... shoo !!!
            More staring into that mirror and just talking to your own projection eh?
            "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
            GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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            • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
              More staring into that mirror and just talking to your own projection eh?
              Nahhhh ... not at all. But that is the fantasy that you've drilled into
              your skull to allow you to sleep better at night. Well, I won't pop your
              bubble - continue believing in sweet Tinkerbell and in the "meanie Jorge".

              Jorge

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              • Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
                I don't have a problem with the message.

                Its the messenger
                Classic fallacy, please explain.
                Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                go with the flow the river knows . . .

                Frank

                I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                • Originally posted by Jorge View Post
                  Nahhhh ... not at all. But that is the fantasy that you've drilled into your skull to allow you to sleep better at night.
                  I sleep just fine at night because your a laughing stock around here. Why is it that even many of your fellow YEC's give you a wide berth and try not to be associated with you? Could it be because you're a laughing stock among the community to such a degree that atheist and Christian alike hold the same low opinion of you? In order for your words to be taken seriously, you got to be somebody to take serious.

                  Well, I won't pop your bubble - continue believing in sweet Tinkerbell and in the "meanie Jorge".
                  I never claimed to be totally sweet, so more shoving words down people throat? Again, you're a laughing stock around here. Why should anybody take anything you say seriously?
                  "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                  GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                  • Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                    Classic fallacy, please explain.
                    Context
                    read context of a dialogue
                    To say that crony capitalism is not true/free market capitalism, is like saying a grand slam is not true baseball, or like saying scoring a touchdown is not true American football ...Stefan Mykhaylo D

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                    • Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
                      Context
                      read context of a dialogue
                      Shuny was correct that you made a fallacious defense.

                      If you understood the message you would have admitted you were wrong.

                      Instead you dismissed anything I wrote because the felt the messenger is a jerk.


                      BTW, regardless of how jerky I am, you ARE wrong about the age of Earth and Cosmos and the theory of evolution.

                      Pure and simple.

                      Now about them cyclothems...

                      K54

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                      • Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                        Classic fallacy, please explain.
                        By the way, shunyadragon,
                        ...which logical fallacy am I guilty of
                        To say that crony capitalism is not true/free market capitalism, is like saying a grand slam is not true baseball, or like saying scoring a touchdown is not true American football ...Stefan Mykhaylo D

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                        • Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
                          By the way, shunyadragon,
                          ...which logical fallacy am I guilty of
                          Genetic Fallacy.

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                          • Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View Post
                            is that the fallacy shunyadragon was referring to.
                            Because I didn't really have a conclusion to the message (the claim)
                            To say that crony capitalism is not true/free market capitalism, is like saying a grand slam is not true baseball, or like saying scoring a touchdown is not true American football ...Stefan Mykhaylo D

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                            • Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
                              By the way, shunyadragon,
                              ...which logical fallacy am I guilty of
                              Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_the_messenger



                              "Shooting the messenger" is a metaphoric phrase used to describe the act of lashing out at the (blameless) bearer of bad news.

                              Until the advent of modern telecommunications, messages were usually delivered by a human envoy. Sometimes, as in war, for example, the messenger was sent from the enemy camp. An easily provoked combatant receiving such an overture could more easily vent anger (or otherwise retaliate) on the deliverer of the unpopular message than on its author.

                              "Attacking the messenger" is a subdivision of the ad hominem logical fallacy

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                              Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                              Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                              But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                              go with the flow the river knows . . .

                              Frank

                              I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                              • Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
                                By the way, shunyadragon,
                                ...which logical fallacy am I guilty of
                                Ad hominem.

                                "Obvious to all but the most ignorant."

                                K54

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