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  • Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_the_messenger



    "Shooting the messenger" is a metaphoric phrase used to describe the act of lashing out at the (blameless) bearer of bad news.

    Until the advent of modern telecommunications, messages were usually delivered by a human envoy. Sometimes, as in war, for example, the messenger was sent from the enemy camp. An easily provoked combatant receiving such an overture could more easily vent anger (or otherwise retaliate) on the deliverer of the unpopular message than on its author.

    "Attacking the messenger" is a subdivision of the ad hominem logical fallacy

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    you are assuming it was because of the message (the bad news)
    Didn't you see the part where I said I didn't have a problem with the message

    ....look, if that was the case, I would be shooting everybody in natsci
    To say that crony capitalism is not true/free market capitalism, is like saying a grand slam is not true baseball, or like saying scoring a touchdown is not true American football ...Stefan Mykhaylo D

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    • Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
      you are assuming it was because of the message (the bad news)
      Didn't you see the part where I said I didn't have a problem with the message

      ....look, if that was the case, I would be shooting everybody in natsci
      And here I figured you were more of a burning at the stake kinda guy

      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
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      • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
        And here I figured you were more of a burning at the stake kinda guy
        Methinks he is a she.

        And she made it clear she doesn't care about the evidence. Her interpretation of six pages of "history" is the Joker Get-out-of-Jail-Free Card for ignoring all the physical evidence (with which she apparently agrees!).

        She does get credit for a sense of humor and agreeing that there's no boundary between micro and macro evilution and that there's a haywagon load of evidence for deep time.

        Actually she might just be the prime example of origins theology cognitive dissonance.



        K54

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        • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
          And here I figured you were more of a burning at the stake kinda guy
          well
          .since you mention it ...
          ....as I sit here with my nachos and popcorn
          ....I do feel I can relate to early church martyrs
          To say that crony capitalism is not true/free market capitalism, is like saying a grand slam is not true baseball, or like saying scoring a touchdown is not true American football ...Stefan Mykhaylo D

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          • Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
            well
            .since you mention it ...
            ....as I sit here with my nachos and popcorn
            ....I do feel I can relate to early church martyrs
            Well, good for you.

            It's admirable to choose a hill to die on in a futile attack.

            The insurmountable hill of scientific evidence assailed by the pop-gun of one of many Genesis interpretations is brave even if stupid.

            But more power to ya.

            The Porcupine in the Paleozoic challenge was an noble effort.

            Fer suure.

            K54

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            • I wonder what those pre-Cambrian rabbits would be eating.

              Or why they would have rodent-like incisors, when there were no woody plants.

              So count me in as another one happily willing to take that bet.

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              • Well, they'de be living in the ocean eating radiolaria.

                Duh.

                "Darwinists are so stupid." Right Jorge

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                • Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
                  is that the fallacy shunyadragon was referring to.
                  Because I didn't really have a conclusion to the message (the claim)
                  You dodged responding to the message (claim?), and 'shoot the messenger.'
                  Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                  Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                  But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                  go with the flow the river knows . . .

                  Frank

                  I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                  • Originally posted by Poor Debater View Post
                    I wonder what those pre-Cambrian rabbits would be eating.

                    Or why they would have rodent-like incisors, when there were no woody plants.

                    So count me in as another one happily willing to take that bet.
                    Cambrian rabbits eat Cambrian rabbits.
                    Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                    Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                    But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                    go with the flow the river knows . . .

                    Frank

                    I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                    • Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                      You dodged responding to the message (claim?), and 'shoot the messenger.'

                      The DODGERinCHIEF accusing somebody else of dodging!
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                        Cambrian rabbits eat Cambrian rabbits.
                        But what do the Cambrian rabbits they eat eat?

                        Perhaps the rabbits at the base of the fluff chain were chemotrophic.

                        Roy
                        Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.

                        mikewhitney: What if the speed of light changed when light is passing through water? ... I have 3 semesters of college Physics.

                        Mountain Man: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
                        Mountain Man on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.

                        Sparko: Even the deists like Jefferson believed in the Christian God, ...

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                        • Originally posted by Roy View Post
                          But what do the Cambrian rabbits they eat eat?

                          Perhaps the rabbits at the base of the fluff chain were chemotrophic.

                          Roy
                          Rabbits all the way down . . .
                          Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                          Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                          But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                          go with the flow the river knows . . .

                          Frank

                          I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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