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  • Banana --> Intelligent Design?

    The YEC/IDer Ray Comfort presented the banana as evidence for Intelligent Design since it has great nutritional value, has a easy-opening peel, and fits "comfortably" in the human hand.

    The argument is of course ridiculous since the banana is the product of millennia of artificial selection and bears little resemblance to its "seedy" ancestor.

    To bw fair, this argument has been debunked sufficiently for many creationists.

    1) I was wondering if there are any other ID howlers out there?

    2) And specifically I wonder what the more scientifically literate ID community and non-evolutionist Christians in particular react to such outlandish claims?

    Here's Christian website that presents Comfort's video and does some debunking.

    Klaus54

    http://www.christianpost.com/buzzvin...-video-114306/

  • #2
    I thought the banana argument was just a joke!
    If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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    • #3
      Debunked for or by creationists?
      Watch your links! http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/fa...corumetiquette

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      • #4
        the banana is the product of millennia of artificial selection and bears little resemblance to its "seedy" ancestor.
        There ye go. Intelligent design at its finest.
        1Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω
        Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
        .
        "when the church no longer teaches its people why they believe what they believe, the world will often step in and fill in the gaps." Ryan Danker

        "The synoptic gospels claim that Jesus was crucified on the 15th day of Nisan and buried on the 14th day of Nisan:" Majority Consensus

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DesertBerean View Post
          Debunked for or by creationists?
          ???

          Debunked by anybody with access to WikiPedia.

          It's my understanding that Ray Comfort was serious about this. But I'm more than willing to stand corrected.

          K54

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          • #6
            I suppose it's "intelligent design" in the sense that humans used artificial selection to design from a less well-designed prototype (less designed from an anthropomorphic sense).

            Actually the arguments I've seen for ID are mostly anthropomorphic.

            K54
            Last edited by klaus54; 07-16-2014, 06:45 PM. Reason: % != 5

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            • #7
              I still prefer bananas over billiards.
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #8

                This is what a natural banana looks like



                As for other howlers...


                I'm always still in trouble again

                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  I still prefer bananas over billiards.
                  Bananas are definitely easier to peel

                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                  "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                  • #10
                    Bananas disprove evolution.

                    Peanut butter disproves evolution.

                    Yet peanut butter and bananas together make a yummy sandwich!

                    Go figure.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by klaus54 View Post
                      ???

                      Debunked by anybody with access to WikiPedia.

                      It's my understanding that Ray Comfort was serious about this. But I'm more than willing to stand corrected.

                      K54
                      It wasn't clear to me if you meant creationists debunked the idea, or if the idea was debunked enough FOR creationists.
                      Watch your links! http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/fa...corumetiquette

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        Bananas are definitely easier to peel
                        I just wish they weren't that color that makes me
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #13
                          [QUOTE=rogue06;78614]

                          This is what a natural banana looks like



                          As for other howlers...



                          I want that 1 minute 34 seconds of my life back.
                          1Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω
                          Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
                          .
                          "when the church no longer teaches its people why they believe what they believe, the world will often step in and fill in the gaps." Ryan Danker

                          "The synoptic gospels claim that Jesus was crucified on the 15th day of Nisan and buried on the 14th day of Nisan:" Majority Consensus

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post

                            This is what a natural banana looks like



                            As for other howlers...

                            I guess the dude from "OnKneesForJesus" had never heard of Louis Pasteur.

                            Could this be a Poe?

                            "Billions of experiments every year"... I guess anytime anyone opens a jar of Mayonnaise the Theory of Evolution is disproved.

                            Of course the ding-dong conflates the Theory of Evolution with abiogenesis. But that's a much higher level of complexity. Peanut Butter is easier to understand.

                            Reminds of the Cosmonaut in orbit who said "I can't see God out here."

                            K54

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                            • #15
                              [QUOTE=tabibito;78624]
                              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post

                              This is what a natural banana looks like



                              As for other howlers...



                              I want that 1 minute 34 seconds of my life back.
                              Punked!!!

                              K54

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