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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostToo much evidence from a variety of sources and various scientific disciplines make that position untenable.
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It was proposed that Oumuamua was a Hyrogen (Comet/Asteroid?) sometime back, but since evidence indicates this is not so.
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Originally posted by TheLurch View PostWell, the prediction had been that we'd find exosolar comets. But the first exosolar object we found, 'Oumuamua, was not a comet. And wasn't a typical asteroid either - it was truly bizarre, and people are still arguing over how to interpret it. So, in many ways, it's only now that predictions are really starting to be confirmed.
Fun 'Oumumua fact: i once fed an interview that mentioned it into automated transcription software, and it popped out as "Oh momma"
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostI don't underestimate the importance of these discoveries, because they begin a new age in astronomy concerning extrastellar objects. Based on the observations so far there is nothing really mysterious about these objects. They were predicted, and likely there will be more since the technology is increasing the ability to find them.
Fun 'Oumumua fact: i once fed an interview that mentioned it into automated transcription software, and it popped out as "Oh momma"
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostDon't underestimate the importance shuny. It gives us a chance to investigate for the first time objects that are provably from outside our solar system that are not stars. The differences or similarities are very informative and will allow some theories to be confirmed and others denied. It is a small sample to be sure, but it is fairly significant as astronomical events go.
Jim
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostI do not consider the discovery of the two interstellar objects as earth shaking or mysterious as many claim. They have been predicted to exist and it is in recent years that we have the technology to discover them and track them. The first is an interstellar asteroid of unknown origin and is likely a wandering remnant of a diseased solar system. The second is a comet from another star and can likely be traced to the star of origin. There will likely be more discovered.
Jim
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostAnd tend to be more than happy to let someone take a look.
Last edited by shunyadragon; 10-22-2019, 01:46 PM.
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Originally posted by oxmixmudd View PostYep - peak magnitude looks to be around 15, which puts it out of reach for anything smaller than 10 inches aperture (limiting magnitude around 15.2). And even then, you'd need pristine dark skies and very good eyes to glimpse it.
But in these times 14(15.7 lm) to 17 (16lm) inch dobs are not uncommon, so you might just look for the local astronomy club to have a viewing. Most such clubs will have at least a few members with scopes big enough to catch it.
Jim
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Originally posted by TheLurch View PostMy understanding is that you'd need a very high end amateur telescope to see it. But if you're near any observatories, there's a chance they'll do viewings - check your calendar. I'm in NYC, and there's actually an observatory on top of the physics building at Columbia (far IR, but still...), so there might be some place closer than you think.
But in these times 14(15.7 lm) to 17 (16lm) inch dobs are not uncommon, so you might just look for the local astronomy club to have a viewing. Most such clubs will have at least a few members with scopes big enough to catch it.
Jim
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Originally posted by Juvenal View PostWiki: 2I/Borisov
2I/Borisov, originally designated C/2019 Q4 (Borisov),[8][12] is the first observed interstellar comet[13][6] and the second observed interstellar interloper after ʻOumuamua.[14][15] 2I/Borisov has a heliocentric orbital eccentricity of 3.3 and is not bound to the Sun.[3] The comet will pass through the ecliptic of the Solar System in December 2019, with the closest approach to the Sun at just under 2 au on 8 December 2019.
So looks like it won't be visible without a telescope.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostIt was one picture, so its 'picture' not 'pictures'
A literalistic interpretation is pretty much just taking the seven days, as seven days. That's what a literalistic interpretation means, going by the word. So when it says one day, its to be interpreted as one day. All that's needed to refute the Church Fathers being literalistic on the day-age issue, is just to point out the diversity of opinion. Rogue06 has done this, and you've failed to answer him.
That you're now shifting the goal post by having it encompance their opinions on other subjects of the Bible is irrelevant.
You use a period between St and the name of the Saint. So it would be 'St. Augustine'
What's your point Shuny? I have no problem with the Church Fathers, interpreting the Bible according to the best understanding of nature they had at their time.
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