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    The official CDC timeline says the first known cases worldwide were in Wuhan, 12/12/19, and the first lab-confirmed U.S. case was 1/20/20. Fine, that much we've always heard.

    Sometime in 2020, there were a few questions about this, because supposedly some blood samples from late 2019 here in the U.S. showed signs of Covid exposure, which would mean it was here but unrecognized months earlier.

    Has anyone heard anything further on that?
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    I haven't heard anything about that result, but all indications are still that late 2019 in Wuhan is still where things kicked off. A good summary on the state of things earlier this year:
    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00584-8

    Note that this links to a number of preprint manuscripts that were in peer review at the time; those have subsequently cleared that hurdle and been formally published. If you'd like the peer reviewed literature instead of a summary, I'd recommend:
    https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abp8715
    and
    https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abp8337
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      Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
      The official CDC timeline says the first known cases worldwide were in Wuhan, 12/12/19, and the first lab-confirmed U.S. case was 1/20/20. Fine, that much we've always heard.

      Sometime in 2020, there were a few questions about this, because supposedly some blood samples from late 2019 here in the U.S. showed signs of Covid exposure, which would mean it was here but unrecognized months earlier.

      Has anyone heard anything further on that?
      Only in rumors and unfounded claims. I have not heard of these; "supposedly some blood samples from late 2019 here in the U.S. showed signs of Covid exposure."
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      • #4
        Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
        The official CDC timeline says the first known cases worldwide were in Wuhan, 12/12/19, and the first lab-confirmed U.S. case was 1/20/20. Fine, that much we've always heard.

        Sometime in 2020, there were a few questions about this, because supposedly some blood samples from late 2019 here in the U.S. showed signs of Covid exposure, which would mean it was here but unrecognized months earlier.

        Has anyone heard anything further on that?
        There was a study that looked at antibodies for the virus in blood samples taken at around the beginning of the pandemic, which seemed to show that some people in the US were infected in December 2019. The study isn't definitive, because of the possibility of false positives.

        https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news...-infections-us

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