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Covid-19 death toll equals and will likely exceed the 1918-1919 flu pandemic
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Careful now, cause his next step is embiggening words and underlining, like he's some psychotic school marm who has lost her temper...
Still waiting . . .Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
Still waiting . . .The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Good, just wait quietly.
It would nice if you could provide actual references that document significant over count.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
Still waiting for competent coherent responses. Guilt by your self imposed ignorance and silence.
It would nice if you could provide actual references that document significant over count.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Do that "still waiting" thing with the bolding and underlining. That always makes me smile.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Looks like the only mindless noise is coming from your responses, Shuny. You merely repeat yourself every time without saying anything coherent.
Still waiting . . .Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostTrue, but do you know of anyone warning that we're only at the third way point?
Moreover, FWICT, a hundred years ago there didn't seem to be a propensity for listing someone killed in, say a train accident, as dying from the Spanish Flu.
Now, obviously the pandemic is changing mortality rates in various ways - people are leaving the house and going to work less often, so lower accidental mortality, strained healthcare systems and deferred healthcare are raising it, etc. But this suggests that the impact of all those things - along with anecdotes of misreported causes of death - aren't having a significant impact on reported fatalities in the US.
(Incidentally, while researching this, came across this page, which performs a similar analysis for 1918-1919, which indicates the earlier pandemic's reporter was also likely to be pretty accurate.)
As for the larger question: clearly, the 1918 pandemic had a larger impact on the US as a whole. What's arguable is whether COVID-19 should have had the effect it has. In contrast to 1918, we had the full genome of SARS-CoV-2 less than a month after it was recognized, diagnostic tests a few weeks after that, and effective vaccines within a year. You could certainly argue that those should have keep the total fatalities lower than 1918; in a significant number of European countries, for example, the per-capita fatalities, if extrapolated to the US, would have kept us well below the 1918 mark.
But that's a completely different argument from a simplistic "this is worse than 1918.""Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling."
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I should clarify - the US has mostly gotten the reporting right during periods when cases levels were moderate. It does worse during surges, when it starts seeing significant excess mortality. That's to be expected due to the general strain on the healthcare system and the shortage of testing that both occur during surges."Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling."
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Do that "still waiting" thing with the bolding and underlining. That always makes me smile.When inventing a god, it is imperative to claim that it's; invisible, inaudible and imperceptible in every way. Otherwise - when it appears to no one, is silent and does nothing - intelligent people are liable to become sceptical.
- Anonymous
When asked why Omniscient and Omnipotent God, chose to burn alive the children of two Middle Eastern cities, came the reply;
“His hands were tied.” - DaveTheApologist
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Originally posted by Markus River View Post
It's good to smile. For me, smiling - well, laughing actually - is watching redneck, anti-science apologists bluster and squirm when asked to provide a reference or two to substantiate their ignorance.
https://m.facebook.com/GOP/videos/de...1365826441581/ smiley fist shake.gif
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostWhen inventing a god, it is imperative to claim that it's; invisible, inaudible and imperceptible in every way. Otherwise - when it appears to no one, is silent and does nothing - intelligent people are liable to become sceptical.
- Anonymous
When asked why Omniscient and Omnipotent God, chose to burn alive the children of two Middle Eastern cities, came the reply;
“His hands were tied.” - DaveTheApologist
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Originally posted by Markus River View Post
Sorry, if that's for me, I've never had a facebook account. And don't intend to start now.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
Smiles are not intelligent nor coherent responses. Puppets can smile.That's what
- She
Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
- Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)
I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
- Stephen R. Donaldson
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
Smiles are not intelligent nor coherent responses. Puppets can smile.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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