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Originally posted by Sparko View PostSo this study shows that there is no benefit for previously infected people to get the vaccine.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....01.21258176v2
Background The purpose of this study was to evaluate the necessity of COVID-19 vaccination in persons previously infected with SARS-CoV-2.
Results Among the 52238 included employees, 1359 (53%) of 2579 previously infected subjects remained unvaccinated, compared with 22777 (41%) of 49659 not previously infected. The cumulative incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection remained almost zero among previously infected unvaccinated subjects, previously infected subjects who were vaccinated, and previously uninfected subjects who were vaccinated, compared with a steady increase in cumulative incidence among previously uninfected subjects who remained unvaccinated. Not one of the 1359 previously infected subjects who remained unvaccinated had a SARS-CoV-2 infection over the duration of the study. In a Cox proportional hazards regression model, after adjusting for the phase of the epidemic, vaccination was associated with a significantly lower risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection among those not previously infected (HR 0.031, 95% CI 0.015 to 0.061) but not among those previously infected (HR 0.313, 95% CI 0 to Infinity).
Conclusions Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination, and vaccines can be safely prioritized to those who have not been infected before.
No mention of different strains though.
My sarcastic comment to your post concerning 'herd immunity' needs clarification. Herd Immunlty' is not set concept. It is conditional on many factors. It is dependent on high vaccination rates. The vaccination rate of the USA is generall not that high. Areas of the USA, like the conservative states have very low vaccination rates, therefore no reasonable chance of herd immunity yet.
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Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
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While the MSM seeks to focus attention on white evangelicals who haven't been vaccinated they only do so to take the spotlight off the largest group of unvaccinated. Blacks. In fact, we're starting to hear whining from the left about a black/white vaccination rate gap and demands that this needs to be addressed. Of course those complaining haven't offered any suggestions of their own.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
That's not what herd immunity means Shunya.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostWhile the MSM seeks to focus attention on white evangelicals who haven't been vaccinated they only do so to take the spotlight off the largest group of unvaccinated. Blacks. In fact, we're starting to hear whining from the left about a black/white vaccination rate gap and demands that this needs to be addressed. Of course those complaining haven't offered any suggestions of their own.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
Large numbers of blacks are born again and other evangelical Christians, which in all races have a low vaccination rate.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
gee, I am evangelical and I got the vaccine. Being evangelical has nothing to do with it. There are antivaxxers in all political groups and religions.
I can cite many references that the anti-vaccine of non-vaccinated dominates White Republicans an born again Christian evangelicals. Start with this one.
Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
Your anecdotal subjective testimony is admirable, but does not represent the racts.
I can cite many references that the anti-vaccine of non-vaccinated dominates White Republicans an born again Christian evangelicals. Start with this one.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Now you are conflating "Republicans" for "Evangelical Christians" ...and around 50% is not a majority. ...and "unsure" is not "refusing to get vaccinated"
Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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https://www.news-medical.net/amp/new...nic-study.aspx
Interestingly, no significant difference in COVID-19 incidence was observed between previously infected and currently unvaccinated participants, previously infected and currently vaccinated participants, and previously uninfected and currently vaccinated participants.
The participants from these three groups exhibited a significantly lower incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection compared to previously uninfected and currently unvaccinated participants.
Specifically, of all infections during the study period, 99.3% occurred in participants who were not infected previously and remained unvaccinated. In contrast, only 0.7% of infections occurred in participants who were not previously infected but were currently vaccinated.
Importantly, not a single incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection was observed in previously infected participants with or without vaccination.
With further statistical analysis, it was observed that the COVID-19 vaccination significantly reduced the risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection in previously uninfected participants but not in previously infected participants.
Although the study did not directly estimate the duration of protection from natural infection, it was observed that previously infected participants remained protected against COVID-19 for at least 10 months after the symptom onset or a positive test result.
Study significance
The study findings reveal that individuals who previously had symptomatic COVID-19 are less likely to get additional benefits from vaccination.
In contrast, individuals without prior SARS-CoV-2 infection can get the maximum benefits from vaccination. Thus, based on the study findings, COVID-19 vaccines should be prioritized to naïve individuals without a history of SARS-CoV-2 infection.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
So why not here? Why not a racial breakdown like they do with everything else?
Now I'm just spit-balling here but could it just possible that they realized if it was broken down that way that the narrative they want to push collapses? That it is obvious that the largest group expressing reservations about getting a vaccine is not the one that the left wants to sneer at and mock.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
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