Statistics is showing that by far the majority of new casws, hospitalizations and deargs are those that are not vaccinated or fully vaccinated.
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Recent Covid-19 infections and the unvaccinated
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostStatistics is showing that by far the majority of new cases, hospitalizations and deaths are those that are not vaccinated or fully vaccinated.
What's not to be expected is that they will particularly care, as long as they are dying at a lower rate than they did in the last year. And thanks to those of us who were vaccinated, that's likely to be the case.
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
That's to be expected.
What's not to be expected is that they will particularly care, as long as they are dying at a lower rate than they did in the last year. And thanks to those of us who were vaccinated, that's likely to be the case.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
That is a positive spin, but also they remain a source of possible mutations that result in more resistant viruses,
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postwhere's the herd immunity?
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Originally posted by Sparko View Postwhere's the herd immunity?
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostStatistics is showing that by far the majority of new casws, hospitalizations and deargs are those that are not vaccinated or fully vaccinated.
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
Your article completely ignores the percentage of people who already had covid and should have natural immunity. How do they factor in?
I'm not aware of any source of vaccination data that breaks out previously infected individuals, though, or how having had a past infection influences intent to get vaccinated. So, all i can say at this point is that the previously infected are contributing towards herd immunity, and contributing even more if they've gotten vaccination as well."Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling."
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Getting the first Pfizer shot the 28th.
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Originally posted by TheLurch View PostImmunity generated by infection seems to be less robust than most vaccines. (About 70-80% as effective as the good vaccines, although far better than the bad ones like Sinovac, and the picture with variants is complicated). As such, the US is recommending that everyone gets vaccinated, even if you've had a SARS-2 infection.
I'm not aware of any source of vaccination data that breaks out previously infected individuals, though, or how having had a past infection influences intent to get vaccinated. So, all i can say at this point is that the previously infected are contributing towards herd immunity, and contributing even more if they've gotten vaccination as well.
But, having said this, I'll probably get the vaccine in the coming months. I figure the initial covid I contracted has mutated by now to undermine my immunity.
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Originally posted by Ronson View Post
That's counter intuitive. Unless these vaccines have a mechanism involved that tricks a person's immune system into fighting off variants, I don't understand how it can be more effective.
Originally posted by Ronson View PostAs far as influencing intent, in my case, that is affected more by the abbreviated testing these vaccines underwent. There is no replacing time when it comes to evaluating complications that may arise later.
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Originally posted by Ronson View PostThat's counter intuitive. Unless these vaccines have a mechanism involved that tricks a person's immune system into fighting off variants, I don't understand how it can be more effective.
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Originally posted by TheLurch View Post
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Originally posted by NorrinRadd View PostIn light of the parts I bolded, you are actually supporting those of us who prefer to wait -- even as much as years -- for more data.
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