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A global assessment of atoll island planform changes over the past decades

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  • A global assessment of atoll island planform changes over the past decades

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/wcc.557


    Abstract



    Over the past decades, atoll islands exhibited no widespread sign of physical destabilization in the face of sea‐level rise. A reanalysis of available data, which cover 30 Pacific and Indian Ocean atolls including 709 islands, reveals that no atoll lost land area and that 88.6% of islands were either stable or increased in area, while only 11.4% contracted. Atoll islands affected by rapid sea‐level rise did not show a distinct behavior compared to islands on other atolls. Island behavior correlated with island size, and no island larger than 10 ha decreased in size. This threshold could be used to define the minimum island size required for human occupancy and to assess atoll countries and territories' vulnerability to climate change. Beyond emphasizing the major role of climate drivers in causing substantial changes in the configuration of islands, this reanalysis of available data indicates that these drivers explain subregional variations in atoll behavior and within‐atoll variations in island and shoreline (lagoon vs. ocean) behavior, following atoll‐specific patterns. Increasing human disturbances, especially land reclamation and human structure construction, operated on atoll‐to‐shoreline spatial scales, explaining marked within‐atoll variations in island and shoreline behavior. Collectively, these findings highlight the heterogeneity of atoll situations. Further research needs include addressing geographical gaps (Indian Ocean, Caribbean, north‐western Pacific atolls), using standardized protocols to allow comparative analyses of island and shoreline behavior across ocean regions, investigating the role of ecological drivers, and promoting interdisciplinary approaches. Such efforts would assist in anticipating potential future changes in the contributions and interactions of key drivers.
    This article is categorized under:
    • Assessing Impacts of Climate Change > Observed Impacts of Climate Change
    • Paleoclimates and Current Trends > Earth System Behavior

    Decadal change in island land area for 709 Pacific and Indian Ocean atolls islands.

    The amplitude and direction of change vary with island size. Importantly, none of the islands larger than 10 ha underwent a reduction in size. N.B.: The blue dotted lines correspond to the ±3% threshold. Twenty islands are excluded from this graph, i.e. seventeen islands >200 ha (7 islands from French Polynesia, 3 from the Republic of the Marshall Islands, 2 from Kiribati, 4 from Tuvalu and 1 from the Maldives) and three islands exhibiting extreme (falling between 125.5% and −23.2%) values of change (1 from the Republic of the Marshall Islands, 1 from the Maldives and 1 from Tuvalu).



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    I have seen this before and other studies. Yes lager islands are not significantly impacted by global warming. One of the reasons is reef growth to a certain extent limits the impact of sea level rise and protects islands even smaller islands.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
      I have seen this before and other studies. Yes lager islands are not significantly impacted by global warming. One of the reasons is reef growth to a certain extent limits the impact of sea level rise and protects islands even smaller islands.
      Having been stationed on Diego Garcia in the Chagos Archipelago several years ago, this study piqued my interest on how the island has fared since I left there in 2001. It was actually quite a beautiful atoll. Isolated, yes, but the beaches were choice!
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      • #4
        Back around 1990 we were told that the Maldives would be submerged in 30 years. Now 30 years later they're still saying it'll be underwater in about 30 years, although one estimate calculates that roughly three-quarters of it will be submerged in 2100.

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        • #5
          Have you found a copy of the full paper anywhere? I'm curious as to the source of the data, but not curious enough to pay for it.

          It also sounds like there's a complicated mix of shrinking small islands, stable large ones, and a while bunch of outliers, some of them growing due to human-engineered expansions. But i'd like to look beyond the abstract to understand more.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by TheLurch View Post
            Have you found a copy of the full paper anywhere? I'm curious as to the source of the data, but not curious enough to pay for it.

            It also sounds like there's a complicated mix of shrinking small islands, stable large ones, and a while bunch of outliers, some of them growing due to human-engineered expansions. But i'd like to look beyond the abstract to understand more.
            The only thing I see is the pdf of the raw data under "Supporting Information". ResearchGate will allow you to request the full text if you are a researcher or academic:

            https://www.researchgate.net/publica...e_past_decades

            Last edited by Bill the Cat; 02-08-2021, 01:20 PM.
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            Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
            - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

            I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
            - Stephen R. Donaldson

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

              Having been stationed on Diego Garcia in the Chagos Archipelago several years ago, this study piqued my interest on how the island has fared since I left there in 2001. It was actually quite a beautiful atoll. Isolated, yes, but the beaches were choice!
              Wow -- I was there -- way back in... 1973, if I recall!!!
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post

                The only thing I see is the pdf of the raw data under "Supporting Information". ResearchGate will allow you to request the full text if you are a researcher or academic.
                Sadly, i'm not. The supplemental data does give a good sense of how far back these records go (a few decades, in most cases), but not how they were obtained. The time scales suggest some of it might just be the start of the satellite era.

                In any case, it's an interesting topic. We know sea level's going up, and we have some sense of the processes that control island landmass (erosion and storms vs. deposition by waves and, dust, plus any organic materials from plant life. How those balance out will be very dependent upon local conditions, and the balance will obviously change if sea level rise continues to accelerate, which it's likely to do.

                Curious to read the paper, since this is a topic i've not followed closely - shame it's not available. Also wondering why they chose +/- 3% for the graph. Most fields use +/-5% as the cutoff for statistical significance. Don't know whether this field uses different standards, or there's something specific about the data that makes that the appropriate measure.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TheLurch View Post
                  Sadly, i'm not. The supplemental data does give a good sense of how far back these records go (a few decades, in most cases), but not how they were obtained. The time scales suggest some of it might just be the start of the satellite era.

                  In any case, it's an interesting topic. We know sea level's going up, and we have some sense of the processes that control island landmass (erosion and storms vs. deposition by waves and, dust, plus any organic materials from plant life. How those balance out will be very dependent upon local conditions, and the balance will obviously change if sea level rise continues to accelerate, which it's likely to do.

                  Curious to read the paper, since this is a topic i've not followed closely - shame it's not available. Also wondering why they chose +/- 3% for the graph. Most fields use +/-5% as the cutoff for statistical significance. Don't know whether this field uses different standards, or there's something specific about the data that makes that the appropriate measure.
                  Maybe you could get Juvenal to help? He's an academic IIRC.
                  Last edited by Bill the Cat; 02-09-2021, 09:43 AM.
                  That's what
                  - She

                  Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                  - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                  I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                  - Stephen R. Donaldson

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