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I'm always still in trouble again
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Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostThere are about a trillion malarial cells in an infected person, and this requires 108 infected individuals to get to 1020 generations.
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Originally posted by TheLurch View PostA random sample will differ at half its locations if and only if the objects being sampled are binary (ie, they can be represented as a zero or one). There are 20 amino acids and, last i checked, a set of 20 is not binary. Should they appear randomly, then the number of differences would be much, much higher.
... my argument has nothing to do with the typical number of differences between a random sequence and a pre-specified one? Because it doesn't, and i've been saying it doesn't for pages now, and you appear to be completely unwilling to actually read either those disclaimers, or what my argument actually is.
Blessings,
Lee
"What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)
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Originally posted by Roy View PostThose aren't generations, they're organisms. By your reckoning, there have 7 billion generations of humans in the last century.
Blessings,
Lee
"What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)
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Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostNo, at each position a residue is either different, or not. So it is binary.
Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostWell, you are disregarding my point here, which is why I repeat it.
You could be talking about your fondness for Wallace and Grommit cartoons, and it would actually be more relevant, because it would at least avoid getting the math wrong. Though i would probably ignore it equally."Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling."
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Originally posted by TheLurch View PostIn which case you just flunk math, because the rate of difference is going to be much higher, given that there's 20 amino acids.
Blessings,
Lee
"What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)
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Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostNo, each residue is either different, or it is not, there can't be 20 differences at one residue between a given sequence and a random one.
Think before you type."Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling."
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Originally posted by TheLurch View PostNo, but the chances of there being a difference go up from 1 in 2 all the way up to 19 in 20.
Think before you type.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by TheLurch View PostNo, but the chances of there being a difference go up from 1 in 2 all the way up to 19 in 20.
Blessings,
Lee
"What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)
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Originally posted by TheLurch View PostThat's the equivalent of saying "i have absolutely no clue about statistics."
Blessings,
Lee"What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)
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Well, it turns out I was wrong, the average increases with increasing base. I wrote a little program to simulate this, and the average for a sequence of 50 amino acids is about 47 differences.
Code:import sys, random sz = 50 loops = int(sys.argv[1]) sum = 0 for i in xrange(loops):
seq = [0] * sz diffs = 0 for j in xrange(sz):seq[j] = random.randrange(20) if seq[j]:diffs += 1sum += diffsprint sum / loops
Lee"What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)
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Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostWell, it turns out I was wrong, the average increases with increasing base.
Also, you don't need a script. There are 20 amino acids. The chance at random of matching 1 of them is 1 in 20. 50 divided by 20 is 2.5. 50 minus 2.5 is, rounded off, 47.
It really is that simple, which is why Rogue and I have been stunned that you got it wrong.
"Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling."
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Originally posted by TheLurch View PostWow, that's what, the second time you've admitted being wrong?
Also, you don't need a script. There are 20 amino acids. The chance at random of matching 1 of them is 1 in 20. 50 divided by 20 is 2.5. 50 minus 2.5 is, rounded off, 47.
It really is that simple, which is why Rogue and I have been stunned that you got it wrong.
Blessings,
Lee
"What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything. Do you say, 'How am I to keep my eye on Him?' I reply, keep your eye off everything else, and you will soon see Him. All depends on the eye of faith being kept on Him. How simple it is!" (J.B. Stoney)
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Originally posted by lee_merrill View PostWell, you all are smarter than I am, then. But I still hold that it is unreasonable to expect evolution to get 47 amino acids difference on average, to get to another interaction.
"Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling."
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