Is the Earth Flat? - Some Evidence Presented

[JohnMartin]

Another Good video entitled "Flat Earth Proof 3 - Land Ho!", showing many cities, mountains and buildings from great distances.

Such evidence all over the earth is difficult to dismiss. The Island of Corsica is seen from Genova, about 99 miles away, which should be hidden behind over 5,000 ft of curvature. Elba is seen 125 miles away, which should be hidden by about 8,770 ft of water.

To save the global earth model, one has to propose some amazing superior mirages of over 8,770 ft.

This doesn't seem likely.

JM

[JohnMartin]

Galileo's trial had little to do with the science of his model and everything to to with the fact that he portrayed the Pope (who had been his sponsor) as a simpleton.

If you look into Galileo's argument for a moving earth, none of his arguments would stand up to the scrutiny of modern science. The Galileo incident has morphed into a Helio myth. Similarly, Copernicus's arguments are also scientifically naive.

JM

[JohnMartin]

Flights from Sydney to LAX to Buenos Aires indicate some compatibility with a flat earth model.

Delta
DL40
11:10 SYD Sydney Kingsford Smith 14h
06:10 LAX Los Angeles International

Connect in airport
Long wait 6h 20
Delta
DL101
12:30 LAX Los Angeles International 15h 40
09:10(+1) EZE Buenos Aires Ministro Pistarini
Arrives: Friday, 19 Feb 2016Journey duration: 36h

Delta
DL110
21:15 EZE Buenos Aires Ministro Pistarini 10h 22
05:37(+1) ATL Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson

Connect in airport
Long wait 13h 33
Delta
DL17
19:10 ATL Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson 5h 10
21:20 LAX Los Angeles International

Connect in airport
1h 31
Delta
DL41
22:51 LAX Los Angeles International 14h 39
08:30(+2) SYD Sydney Kingsford Smith
Arrives: Wednesday, 2 Mar 2016Journey duration: 45h 15

Why go from S to N to S? Strange indeed.

JM

[rogue06]

Galileo's trial had little to do with the science of his model and everything to to with the fact that he portrayed the Pope (who had been his sponsor) as a simpleton.

Especially since the pope until that time had been rather protective of him. He justifiably felt betrayed. Still, Galileo wasn't charged with insulting the pope but with heresy of teaching heliocentrism as a fact.

[rogue06]

If you look into Galileo's argument for a moving earth, none of his arguments would stand up to the scrutiny of modern science. The Galileo incident has morphed into a Helio myth. Similarly, Copernicus's arguments are also scientifically naive.

JM

All taken care of by a certain Johannes Kepler

[JohnMartin]

Especially since the pope until that time had been rather protective of him. He justifiably felt betrayed. Still, Galileo wasn't charged with insulting the pope but with heresy of teaching heliocentrism as a fact.

Correct. Then Galileo changed his mind and became a Geo.

JM

[JohnMartin]

All taken care of by a certain Johannes Kepler

This is another myth which has developed as part of the Helio meta-narrative.

JM

[Sparko]

The photo actually shows Dark being un-shined from beyond the left of photo.

Prove me wrong.

You got me. There are a lot more darkons in space than photons. That is why space is black.

[Sparko]

The suns rays would disperse because of the spherical shape. What you see close up to the moon should be different to what is seen from earth. If we see a concentrated moon light from earth, then how does this account for light dispersion from the spherical lunar surface?

JM

Are you saying you can't see a sphere at a distance when a light shines on it? Go look at an orange. I will wait. Now look at a baseball.

Notice anything? Light reflects off of spheres just fine. No problem.

Your idiocy has been noted. Nice troll.

[Sparko]

Make a ball of earth and see the light dispersed and with far less luminosity than a white soccer ball. The dirt ball is far more like the moon than the white soccer ball. There is no intense reflection of light from a dirt ball, but we see this from the moon.

JM

John here is a photo of a desert that has soil similar to what is on the moon. Notice how easy you can see it in the sunlight. derp.

A-road-through-the-stone-desert.jpg

[Sparko]

It won't be the intense light like we see from the moon.

JM

The moonlight is not that intense, John. It is just that your eyes are comparing it to the black around it.

Here are two gray squares surrounded by light and by dark gray. On one it looks dark and on the other it looks bright. Both boxes are the same color gray.

[Sparko]

Stated another way. If the plowed field is horizontal and then made vertical, the plowed lines will change from being viewed as convergent to a distant horizon, to being parallel, without a distant horizon. If the suns rays are tipped from being vertical, to horizontal, the suns rays will be seen to change from diverse angles in the vertical, pointing to a close sun, to even more diverse and more convergent in the horizontal, converging to a horizontal horizon. The difference seen between the parallel line in the field and the sun's angled rays mean the sun's rays are at real angles, and are not parallel.

JM

Uh no.

Vertical parallel lines still converge at a distance you idiot.

Go to a city and look up.

tragic-1-city-skyscrapers.jpg

[Roy]

An Invalidation of the Helio Model - Apparently the sun is about 150,000,000 miles away from the earth,...

Wrong as usual.

[klaus54]

I thought I said we would not see the sun light from the moon as bright as what we see.

JM

Yes, I know what you said, but it was based on your opinion which, plus a $1.50 American, will get you a cup of coffee.

[klaus54]

Correct. Then Galileo changed his mind and became a Geo.

JM

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